handsom and cynic, please, this is ridiculous !

We are grown up here, stop provoking each other and ending up in a childish war of calling names !

Ým sorry but that is how it is!

Stop using annoying words, you ´any of you´ know very well its effect on the other even sometimes it sounds innocent !

You can take it via pm´s and say whatever you like, but keep it here to the topic.

Anything that is not related to the topic will be deleted.

Happy Belated Birthday Sonunda ...its way too late..sorry but i wasnt around

Ok guys, i believe all of us know exactly what we should and shouldnt be posting...so please can we all calm down here ?!!!

Sultan Mehmet meydaný nerede ?

Sultan Mehmet meydaný burasý.

Where is Sultan Mehmet square ?

Sultan Mehmet square is here .

Can we use burada instead of burasý here?

 Ãm on the night guard now...hopefully not for long !

And she is still there too

Ý have lots of studies to do and seems im loosing time !

 Actually handsom you were refering to my post here, and since you did, so my question actually was to you personally not to anyone else .

Reread my question, i said even if....

Why would it be essential to you to salm Ýslam down by every mean you can have?!

Why do i ask, because actually its not the first time you do it and as much as you try to show it as a normal thing to salm religions down once you find people believing in them...actually it is not !

Ýf i/you accepting everyone´s right to believe what they wish, it wont be the case, it actually wont matter to you if they promote they religion or not.

Talking about your believe, being proud of it, its not promotion, but its quite understandable that you see it that way, never the less, i believe its a natural feeling, if i wasnt believing in Ýslam, proud to be Muslim, well...i wouldnt be muslim at the first place i would convert to other one i can be proud believing in it, and i believe that goes for every religion and belief too not just Ýslam.

People are proud of their beliefs but that doesnt mean we slam down other beliefs...everyone has his/her own mind and see what suites him/her, and we should accept that.

What amazes me is that you dont miss a chance to slam Ýslam down as you said, once someone talk about it, and you start accusing him/her of promoting Ýslam and start wondering if it is a weak belief that is why people need to promote it !

As if it is a cause to you !

Yes handsom it is a weak belief and muslims also are weak and not really know anything about Ýslam, that is why the number of Muslims is almost %20 of the world !

All those 1.0-1.8 billion or something are blind and do not know the right Ýslam or see its real face which you clearly know better than all of us / them ! 

 Maybe because he is Muslim, and he knows what he follows ?!

You are not Muslim yourself, but you try to force your understanding of Ýslam even upon us Muslims, saying that we understood it wrong ?!

And the right Muslims are Taliban and Saudi Arabians ?!

Ýts quite interesting actually !

Well, in Ýslam as all muslims know, and should know...no one can say who is the good or the bad muslims but ALLAH, that is really something we cant judge

But we can judge who follow the rules of Ýslam in the right way and who dont!

Ýn Ýslam we have 2 sources..JUST two and they dont contradict with each others...Qur´an, and Sunna, and by those ALLAH will ask us in the judgement day.

By saying Þahada, you as Muslim accept that as a rule nothing else.

 Misinterpretting ?!

Mmmmm, well i dont know, but Saudi Arabia has sentenced Egyptian medic 53 yrs old to 1,500 lashes and 15 years in jail for allegedly turning a Saudi princess into a drug addict.

She used to take an over dosage of the drug and SURELY it would be the Doctor´s mistake not hers!

There is NOTHÝNG absolutely NOTHÝNG in Qur´an, Hadith, Sharia allow them to such sentence, its simply not there...so is it also misinterpreting ?! Ý dont know what to call it !

But im sure you would like to see it as it was an order from ALLAH in Qur´an that they sentence Doctors to 1500 lashes !

 Even if the post was promote Ýslam, as someone proud of his religion and believes, what so ever, i wonder, why do you feel you have to post something to slam down Ýslam ?!

Not having enough time to write, but want to add my 2 pennies.

Jealousy is norm in our culture, it goes both ways, i mean its a he and a she thing , no differences here.

To us, its essential in the relationship to some extent, but if it exceeded it, then its sickness and can break up the relationship all together

Still, if you dont feel jealous, then you simply dont care, dont love !

So, actually we dont really get it when others ´other cultures´ say they dont get/feel jealous.

Ýn our logic/understanding/culture, Yes, s/he trust him/herself, successful, trust him/her and at same time feel jealus too...by no mean nothing to be ashamed of!