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Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

06 Jun 2007 Wed 05:15 pm

Quoting MrX67:

seems thats a big problem and worth to discussion till the end for you Keith?????theres a saying in Turkish,''Millet gitti aya,biz kaldık yaya''....

just trying to understand the comparisons you are talking about. These shangra la places you are telling us about...

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

06 Jun 2007 Wed 04:56 pm

what other things and what other countries?

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

06 Jun 2007 Wed 06:33 am

Doesn't America's constitution also believe in seperation of religion and state? Keep religion out of public schools. And hardly the same issue as what is going on in Turkey by the way...

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

06 Jun 2007 Wed 05:07 am

Quoting panta rei:

Quoting KeithL:

Because Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the savior of this country you live in, said not to...
Thats why...

Ataturk said what? Enlighten me please!

What is to enlighten? Are you an attorney, a judge? It is the law in this country. I don't need to explain it or reason it to you. Respect it.

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

05 Jun 2007 Tue 10:00 pm

Quoting Aysenur:

We should make a difference between ataturk and Islam.
If you follow ataturk I respect you but if you follow islam you will agree that this case is not correct. This is a personal decision.

So again I say, why attack the founder of what may be the best muslim nation in the world and use your energy to attack the leaders of these other muslim nations. This argument of course is about attacking Turkey's secularism, not defending the rights of Turkey's women. Lets help the women at the bottom of the islamic world first rather than help the women at the top.

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:47 pm

Quoting panta rei:

KeitL - Don't preach about secularism, democracy, republic, other muslim countries, etc. Simply answer me: I do want to wear headscarf, this is my right, my human right, and I have no problem with secularism, democracy, etc, nor do I care about the situations/human rights/women in other muslim countries. I live in Turkey, and only the case in Turkey interests me right now. Just tell me: How come you can forbid me to wear headscarf/turban?

Because Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the savior of this country you live in, said not to...
Thats why...

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:40 pm

Quoting elham:

Quoting KeithL:

Elham, with all due respect, find me a Turkish woman that would trade the freedom she "suffers through" in Turkey for the freedom "you enjoy" in Baghdad...

There is no comparison here, because the situation of women in Baghdad, as I think is better than come person who stand in the door of the university, and tell her takeoff your scraf

I will start the "Opressed Women of Istanbul" scholarship immediately. All tuition and travel paid by me to attend baghdad university. Please respond to me immediately before all available vacancies are filled!

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:35 pm

Quoting Aysenur:

Quoting KeithL:

I'm not trying to offend you actually. I am only pointing out that muslim women in Turkey are treated better "as muslims" than maybe any country in the world. So rather thn criticize the country where muslim women have it best, why not vocalize the cause in other nations where muslim women have it far, far worse.

You are right that in many points muslim woman in turkey are well treated but this issue can be changed and it will be a good for the turkish society. I have this thing on my heart because if I give birth to a girl and once she can not get good education and she is discriminated because she wears scarf I would be so upset and sad... This is why I would like the things change for the best in turkey. Insha allah.

PS: thank you for the respect because this conversation is strictly in a constructive base...

I agree this is a diificult issue to solve maybe. I only say that Turkey is targeted unfairly by the islamic exremists when far worse issues are in plain sight for all to see. Fix the problems in the rest of Arabya first, then, lets discuss fixing Turkey.

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:32 pm

Quoting elham:

Arab governments have not violate the rights of women . If there were violations of the rights of Arab women are from people who are far away from Islam, They are extremists who have violated the rights of women, through the enactment of laws such as prevent her driving a vehicle or stay at home or wearing the hijab, which covers all her face, or not to go to beauty shops

Oh please, we see examples of injustice to women in arab nations all the time. The examples we can list are endless. For example, just recently, the women in tehran that are being arrested for not being dresses conservative enough. Or the women in kuwaut waiting at bustops arrested for not being escorted by a man. Are these violations of human rights not obvious enough to you? Do we need more examples? Create an infinite thread of womens suffering in Arabic nations? Please...

Thread: Harassment of the muslim woman in Turkey

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KeithL
1455 posts

05 Jun 2007 Tue 09:23 pm

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