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Thread: Democracy and Turkey

1051.       KeithL
1455 posts
 03 May 2007 Thu 01:45 am

I have thought this for a long time. Piss on the EU...
In 10 years, there will be no advantage.
Stay true to self governing secularism.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1052.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 09:38 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Well, on Sunday 6th we all know more. A new try to elect a president.



I don't think so. They announced that they will not vote for President again until after General Elections.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1053.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:31 pm

How can you criticize Turkish government, when your government doesnt have real elections? This is specifically what I am asking.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1054.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:22 pm

Canli, Egypt doesnt have real elections. How can you say your country emulates french government?



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1055.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 11:56 am

Quoting mltm:

Quoting erdinc:


Look at this picture. You will see mens desk and womens desk. This is Istanbul and they are paying their water bills to councils pay desk.



I can't believe that! This is not possible?!



This is Erdogan's AK Parti Istanbul....and his vision for Turkey.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1056.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 11:54 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting KeithL:



Then they should have waited till the election time comes and not interfear .



The Presidential election by Parliament is now. General Elections are later. The term of President is 6 years. There was no time to wait.
No blood has been shed. No swords were drawn. Only military enforcing constitution.
And now, Erdogan wants to change constitution. So, he does not accept the constitution the way that Ataturk had it drafted. Even more reason he has to go.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1057.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 11:45 am

The most ironic thing of all Canli is that your country, Egypt, has no democracy at all. Your presidential elections have had only one candidate since the early 80's. And Mubarik is grooming his son to become the next king....I mean president.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1058.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 11:00 am

Erdogan may ask for a new vote in parliment, but it will be impossible to get 2/3 vote needed.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1059.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 10:35 am

Quoting Trudy:

Another question: I read earlier that the Supreme Court said the last vote was invalid because there were only 361 instead of 367 members of Parliament when voting. But now I read that the AK party wants a new round of votes, starting tomorrow. With Gül still as their candidate. Anyone who can explain?



AK party did want the voting to continue. But constitutional court has thrown out first round of votes.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

1060.       KeithL
1455 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 10:34 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting KeithL:

. is what the people wanted, .


+100000000

That is the point KeithL ,that is what im talking about.
Islamic law or not was not the issue,we just been off the Topic.

And that is THE TOPIC what people want,and that i accept and its very much ok with me.

Let people choose without having any swards on their necks !

And by that i rest my case



But, if the military had not threatened Erdogan, there would be no early elections. This was a confrontation between Erdogan and Buyukanit. The people have chosen Buyukanit. Clearly.
Again, I realize that this balance of power between government and military only works correctly in Turkey, but this system does work...



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