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Thread: Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana

1001.       armegon
1872 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 11:21 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

You are not making sense now..I am not even Kurdish and I find Ocalan quite primitive. 

 

Hmmm "quite primitive", im surprised , He is a terrorist leader, the one who raped terrorist girls, who killed families, the handsom. Only a brainwashed can say this, actually you never make sense, also there have been terrorists from other nations in PKK rather than Kurds btw..

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

I never defended any of the racism in my entire life to be honest. But I always thought that kurdish racism was the result of Turkish racism. You may keep saying that we dont have problems with peaceful people but jailing Kurdish politicians proving that you are not right.

 

You are defending these terrorists from the beginning. And Turkish facists which were fed up during cold war did not hit only Kurds but also other ethnicities and Alevis who did not even think to rebel the Turkey, which proves your double standards maybe tens of times here . Btw it is not jailing Kurdish politicians, it is jailing terrorists who claimed to be politician, there still some politician in parliament whose husband is on mountains.

Quoting thehandsom

 

I believe that Turkish nationalism is the one playing (and have played) a dividing role here by not accepting the reality that there are other minorities living in our country and trying to make them Turkish..

Well as you see, it has not been working (please check the sark islahat plani thread about the treatment of Kurds since the beginning of the republic).

There are many thing to be said about the lies you were told and you believed ( from statements from the army about ´we dont have kurdish problem, it is all foreign powers´ to JITEM, Ergenekon) But I wont have a go on them.

But I believe from your statements, you   opposed to the generals when they banned the kurdish language or changed the kurdish viallage names and when they told ´there are no kurds. they are mountain turks´.. And I am sure you did not believe them when they burned the villages in the east and said that ´we did not do it´. or when Jitem killed those thousands of kurds and the army said that ´they have no idea what happened to them´.

Well it is good to know


 

 

I dont believe, actually i am sure that problem is puppet facist Kurdish leaders who are directing the ignorant people by threatening with their feodal system, caused many rebellions during the Republic history. As we talked before one of the result of this is Islahat planý. I think the lies you were told are the same as which was used to brainwash Kurdish people to convert them into terrorist who hate everything about Turkey. Denying the effect of foreign intelligent services that are using sometimes ülkücü group or counter guerilla organizations, sometimes other ethnicities in Turkey, is simply absurd, because it is clear as day . After cold war strategies and targets are of course changed due to the project of BOP. I am sure you did not believe that terrorist wearing Turkish army uniform, killing people.

Quoting thehandsom

 

Calm down ..

See.. you still dont get the parallels here..How cleverly the Brits stopped the killings there. Because they value the lives of their citizens..They put their citizens lives ahead of everything (they even talked to known terrorists in order to stop the bloodshed)..

 Jailing of Kurdish politicians who never killed or took arms will cause more unrest..and more deaths..

That is what you are FAILING TO SEE. 

 

 

Since i learned your mentality from the beginning when you called terrorists as "young boys", i would say the same thing to you, imo you are trying to justify terrorism here. And any concession in the way dealing terrorists of Turkish authorities gathers more dahgerous situations even more inner rebellions because this time Turkish people will begin to use weapons instead of army. In fact i think Turkey is getting closer to this situation, thanks to our government AKP...



Thread: Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana

1002.       armegon
1872 posts
 06 Dec 2008 Sat 01:47 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

Well, you like it or not but there are at least 5 million Turks/Kurds think that Ocalan is their leader and they symphatise with him (actually most of them are quite keen on him. if he says die to them, they will die).

 

 According to you then, Turkey has 5 million terrorists to deal with since they can die for terrorism by killing people includin Zana.  Are you one of them?

Quoting thehandsom

 

When you add others who dont like Ocalan but symphatise with the kurds because of all those anti democratic asimilation and treatment, you have already lost it..

Are you going to call them terrorist too? are you going to put them in jail too?

 

I dont think we have problem with peaceful people, actually these people has problems with these terrorists.  But again you are making agitations, as only Kurds the poorest ones and only the Kurds mistreated in Turkey; just have a look at all people in Turkey instead of focusing on only Kurds and instead of defending their Kurdish racists and terrorists but since i dont see these, i put you in that racist group. Your double-standards force me to think like this unfortunately.

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

(think of islamic world, think of pakistani people for example, at least 80% of them supports osama, are they all terrorists? they should all be put in jail?)

 

 

 

How you come this conclusion? did you make a poll? Imo who supports that vahhabi puppet freak called ossama is also a terrorist, nothing changes because they can kill civilians with an order like an installed robot, just like the cave men in Kandil. But since im working with some Pakistanis, they curse ossama since hes using the name Islam, maybe i only came up with the intellectuel ones.

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Not seeing this reality, putting people like Zana in jail (who never took arms, never killed anybody and still insists that ´Turks and Kurds should find a way to live together peacefully´  and STILL believing in people who lied to you repeatedly (starting from K Evren´s speaches -such as ´there is no such a thing as kurds they are all mountain turks to we have only terrorism problem which is supported by foreign powers blah blah-) caused the death of 40.000 thousand people (mainly Kurds). Do you want more? How much more?

 

 

What reality are you talking about? She is threatenin Turkey and Turkish army by terrorism, is this how she trying to create peace? By dividing the nation with her retarded mentality. Nobody lied to me, im not a fan of Evren either, actually i dont like him if you did care to my posts here but i think you only see your own nose rather than this; claiming that im a fan of Evren. It seems you are brainwashed by propogand of terrorists and parroting same thing here as putting all blame to Turks and Turkish army, you are blind to see the reality that Kurds are being used. Surely i dont want more people killed but seems Zana and their bosses want more, one can observe these tense created by these racists nowadays...

Quoting thehandsom

 

I will repeat again, if British goverment put people like Gerry Adams into jail there would still be killing in N Ireland. 

 

 

 Hmm, i know at last you will shout "freedom for terrorist in Ýmralý", we know the situation when he was outside...Are these terrorists orphans when he is now in jail? I dont think so, he also does what he want from jail, anyone cant find a jail like this, thanks to your bla blas

Quoting thehandsom

Why do we keep insisting that Turkish lives are not as important as British lives? 

 

 What is this? I have never claimed someting like that, are you fine?



Thread: Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana

1003.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 10:50 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

Hitler gave orders to kill people. That woman never gave orders to kill people.. ..lol

 

 , she declares Öcalan as her leader and Kurds leader, means she is under the order of a terrorist leader, so she also a terrorist, thats what normal person perceives from that declaration, actually she is political representetive of terrorists and brain-washeds. btw im losing nothing, im behind my words, if her preachings is just speaking, nothing can be said to that sick mentality that directs people to kill civilians or Turkish soldiers even Kurds who do not bow down. Actually that sick racist mentality of ones like Zana & Ayna, results more people killed...



Thread: The Translation Lounge

1004.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 10:41 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Ohh, thank you, it went very well with Fenerbahçe´s match , but you forgot my chips{#lang_emotions_rant}



Thread: Turkey seeks names of YouTube´s Ataturk insulters from U.S.

1005.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 07:42 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

I´d do my own reasearch, thank you very much.

 

 Yes, that will be better as there are not so many Turkish people here. Welcome ...



Thread: Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana

1006.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 07:38 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

haha.

Are you sure about she ´directed a terrorist organization´?

She was never ever directed or managed any terrorist organisation and you very well know that..

She does not live in Northern Iraq. She lives in Turkey. She is watched all the time.

Are you not aware that because you putting zana type people

WHO NEVER KILLED ANYBODY

WHO NEVER DIRECTED A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION

WHO NEVER TOOK ARMS INTO HER HANDS

people are still getting killed?

Are you saying that putting zana type people into jail helps to solve ´our Kurdish problem´?

Are you sure that jailing Zana helps the peace we are trying to achive in Turkey?

 

Completely nonsense, everybody knows she is a preacher to public, and advices Kurds to be terrorists while she was praising the terrorist leader. This means she is a terrorist, and directs people, responsible for all killed innocents. You again want to talk how to solve Kurdish issue as we talked many times here, you lost at the beginning when you try to justify terrorism by defending these Kurdish racists, and im right with my thoughts about you...



Thread: Turkey seeks names of YouTube´s Ataturk insulters from U.S.

1007.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:46 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 Well, I guess you would know, you and my husband were in the same dancing school!  {#lang_emotions_lol_fast}

 

 He is your husband then , unfortunately i cant dance, it is for sure your husbands mate is your other dudu lover{#lang_emotions_razz} , you need to change your glasses Eli...



Thread: Turkey seeks names of YouTube´s Ataturk insulters from U.S.

1008.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:41 pm

 

Quoting Melek74

I´m sorry, I have difficulty understanding the point you´re making and how it relates to my question.

Its very related to your question since you can say this in parliament, whatelse left smart lady  

Quoting Melek74

What my question inquired about is, for the Turkish people, do they even question the legality or validity of the law that makes it a crime to insult turkishness? Does anybody consider if to be contrary to the guarantees of the constitution? Or do people think it´s ok? And what exactly is "turkishness"? Are there specifications which say what you can or cannot say? Obviously Ataturk is one, any others?

This really shows your lack of knowledge, why dont you start to dig up old threads here?Then after commenting here. Or you can also search Atatürk nationalism, will be a good start

Quoting Melek74

 I hope I´ll get a list of "10 things you can´t say here" when I visit Turkey. Otherwise I´ll probably rot in prison there.

 

Ya, we sent tourists to jail, all likes Turkish jails{#lang_emotions_razz}, and because of this Turkey is one of the country of tourism...



Thread: Turkey jails Kurdish politician Ms Zana

1009.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:33 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

She has never took arms and she has never killed anybody!!

 

I keep saying that she is terrorist like many other terrorists. Other terrorist leaders do no take arms and maybe never killed anybody but direct a terrorist organisation. Do this chahged the fact that they are terrorists?



Thread: The Translation Lounge

1010.       armegon
1872 posts
 05 Dec 2008 Fri 06:15 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!

That is Armegon?

 

Watch those hips move baby

 

 No, thats not me, thats her husband {#lang_emotions_satisfied_nod}



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