But what you are saying is the same as saying that all muslims are terrotists is the truth, not racism. How come you see this behavior in others, but not in yourself?

I prefer to be called Realist I can´t bother trying to express my thoughts in a politically correct manner, my English ins´t that good for that yet anyway.

And you don´t wonder about her committing suicide as the second member of the same family? Her sister (supposedly) committed suicide in 1997 (or 1996, can´t remember). Weird, that deaths are administrated as suicides. Looks like a huge covering up to me.

That´s just ridiculous and racist.

Turkish government has been trying to prevent all these töre related issues, but it just doesn´t work. Every attemp is regarded as an assault on their culture, because they define themselves with töre.

i dont know. they get offended by anything.

an, I said what I meant - I sympathize with victims of racism, but I seriously doubt the sincerity of some people who keep on criticizing others, but are unable to criticize themselves, and turn very aggressive and defensive when that is pointed out. As I said, people like that will turn around and abuse others when THEY are in the position of power.

Armegon, Vineyards... as I said, you have every right to criticize racism when you see it in others, but since you are so sensitive to people´s suffering, how come I don´t see you criticizing yourselves/your country? People are people no matter what nationality they are, and you have more power changing your own country then other countries, and as it seems there is a lot of work you/your country need to do. I definitely sympathize with the victims of racism in Norway/Europe.. but I do not believe that some of the people here (and I don´t mean Vineyards) are so concerned with racism because they are sensitive to ALL racism, but only when people from their country/their religion encounter problems. They see no problem with their own racism.

According to the Global Peace Index 2009, in the category of "hostility to foreigners" Norway gets 0/5, while Turkey gets 4/5. Where is your (Turkish people in general, and Vineyards in particular) criticism of yourselves? I only see how all of you complain of you being discriminated and victimized, but what about your own xenophobic and racist attitudes?

That is not to say that you are wrong to criticize others, but it sounds very suspicous and hypocritical when you yourselves behave in ways that apparently are worse then what you criticize in others.. and you don´t say or do anything about that. It kind of looks like Turkey has more to improve then Norway does in this respect..