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04 Jun 2007 Mon 01:15 pm |
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Quoting SuiGeneris: actually i dont think panta rei can be a PKK supporter or owner, he just wanted to be a mocking bird i suppose as usual...
and i feel worse days are waiting for Turkey with those terroristic events...
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Damn.There was me thinking that i was mocking a killing bird, it turns out i was killing a mocking bird.I just checkd some if his other posts and you are probably right sui,sorry fanta.Being rarely here,im not familiar with his writing style,so i had to take his word for it when he repeatedly said that he is a PKK supporter.
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 01:34 pm |
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1) religion is forbidden to kill innocent people and it is agaist racism..
2) islam does not allow to seperate the goverment
3) if u r religion, u cant support terrorist group
4) pkk is komunist group as his chairman said.. so if u religion how do u support it
5) i still cant understand what kind of people support a terrorist group????
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 04:46 pm |
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Quoting duskahvesi: 1) religion is forbidden to kill innocent people and it is agaist racism..
2) islam does not allow to seperate the goverment
3) if u r religion, u cant support terrorist group
4) pkk is komunist group as his chairman said.. so if u religion how do u support it
5) i still cant understand what kind of people support a terrorist group???? |
i am sorry but are you against shariah or pkk or communists. I couldn't figure out what you are trying to say
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 05:09 pm |
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Quoting ruthless87: Quoting duskahvesi: 1) religion is forbidden to kill innocent people and it is agaist racism..
2) islam does not allow to seperate the goverment
3) if u r religion, u cant support terrorist group
4) pkk is komunist group as his chairman said.. so if u religion how do u support it
5) i still cant understand what kind of people support a terrorist group???? |
i am sorry but are you against shariah or pkk or communists. I couldn't figure out what you are trying to say |
1) religion does not allow the communism..
2) am against PKK
3) i compared the religion and pkk's aim... i am tryting to say that pkk aim and the religion aim isnot same..
pkk try to make people encomfortable..
religion try to make them happy..
the main difference is this!
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 05:11 pm |
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I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists
Actually it was against the people who wore turban and put on make up.
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 05:19 pm |
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Quoting ruthless87: I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists |
than try to find out new information about pkk, its idelogy and islam religion..
may be u can understand...
may be u cant understand very well..
thnk two times...
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 05:31 pm |
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Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ruthless87: I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists |
than try to find out new information about pkk, its idelogy and islam religion..
may be u can understand...
may be u cant understand very well..
thnk two times... |
I m sure that not everyone in pkk is religious. There are probably atheists, Alevis, Yezidis and maybe some christians so not all can be islamist(and if someone is religious are they potentially terrorists?)
Also although K in pkk represent the workers, it is like H in CHP represents the people. After 1990's they have become a nationalist party, they say that in their papers and other publishments(I dont think the last word is correct so can you tell me the correct version)
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 05:49 pm |
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Quoting ruthless87: Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ruthless87: I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists |
than try to find out new information about pkk, its idelogy and islam religion..
may be u can understand...
may be u cant understand very well..
thnk two times... |
I m sure that not everyone in pkk is religious. There are probably atheists, Alevis, Yezidis and maybe some christians so not all can be islamist(and if someone is religious are they potentially terrorists?)
Also although K in pkk represent the workers, it is like H in CHP represents the people. After 1990's they have become a nationalist party, they say that in their papers and other publishments(I dont think the last word is correct so can you tell me the correct version) |
i guess u dont understand what is written there...
pkk is communist group..
and islam does not support communism.. islam refuses its ideological approaching..
this is not logical if u r religious person u cant be communist.. if u r communist u cant be religious person..
i hope this is clear..
yes, pkk supporter r not religion.. it has different believe as u said..
islam (or any religion) is forbidden to kill innocent people.. [for a while ago 8 turkish soldiers were killed by pkk. ]
it is nationalist party as u said.. islam is forbidden to be nationalist.. or over nationalist.. every racing is equal in islam.. and this arranges the "racist" relationship between people.. if u r religious person u have to be against nationalism..
i hope this is more clear...
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 05:59 pm |
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and according to me, dont care what it is written on their papers...
just loot at their action..
ther would give us democracy but kill the innocent people..
they offer a peace but at the same time kill people..
so dont believein in papers..believe wjat u see in real life...
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 06:07 pm |
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No matter how hard u try, if you did not born a turk, u can not understand the message of that video. Even the color of green represent fundamentalist islam for a turk. Color of red represent our flag, military etc. The picture he choose says that on red "that's the Turkish way of living islam", the pictures on green says "thats the way of fundamentalist and political living of islam. It is not about scarf or race. It is about using religious dogmas for raising votes! I hope now its clear for who does not understand what are we arguing here...
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 06:09 pm |
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Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ruthless87: Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ruthless87: I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists |
than try to find out new information about pkk, its idelogy and islam religion..
may be u can understand...
may be u cant understand very well..
thnk two times... |
I m sure that not everyone in pkk is religious. There are probably atheists, Alevis, Yezidis and maybe some christians so not all can be islamist(and if someone is religious are they potentially terrorists?)
Also although K in pkk represent the workers, it is like H in CHP represents the people. After 1990's they have become a nationalist party, they say that in their papers and other publishments(I dont think the last word is correct so can you tell me the correct version) |
i guess u dont understand what is written there...
pkk is communist group..
and islam does not support communism.. islam refuses its ideological approaching..
this is not logical if u r religious person u cant be communist.. if u r communist u cant be religious person..
i hope this is clear..
yes, pkk supporter r not religion.. it has different believe as u said..
islam (or any religion) is forbidden to kill innocent people.. [for a while ago 8 turkish soldiers were killed by pkk. ]
it is nationalist party as u said.. islam is forbidden to be nationalist.. or over nationalist.. every racing is equal in islam.. and this arranges the "racist" relationship between people.. if u r religious person u have to be against nationalism..
i hope this is more clear...
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I still couldn't understand the connection with the video.
I think what you are saying is they are muslims so they shouldn't kill anyone. But that doesn't really make sense, because you can apply this to everyone.Same can be said for all wars and conflicts.Also, yes, Marx said that "religion is the opium of masses", but, everyone is free to choose what they want and one can be religious and be a communist (there are different fractions with different approaches). Socialist ideology is also against the idea of nationalism as well so ...
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