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04 Jun 2007 Mon 06:09 pm |
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Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ruthless87: Quoting duskahvesi: Quoting ruthless87: I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists |
than try to find out new information about pkk, its idelogy and islam religion..
may be u can understand...
may be u cant understand very well..
thnk two times... |
I m sure that not everyone in pkk is religious. There are probably atheists, Alevis, Yezidis and maybe some christians so not all can be islamist(and if someone is religious are they potentially terrorists?)
Also although K in pkk represent the workers, it is like H in CHP represents the people. After 1990's they have become a nationalist party, they say that in their papers and other publishments(I dont think the last word is correct so can you tell me the correct version) |
i guess u dont understand what is written there...
pkk is communist group..
and islam does not support communism.. islam refuses its ideological approaching..
this is not logical if u r religious person u cant be communist.. if u r communist u cant be religious person..
i hope this is clear..
yes, pkk supporter r not religion.. it has different believe as u said..
islam (or any religion) is forbidden to kill innocent people.. [for a while ago 8 turkish soldiers were killed by pkk. ]
it is nationalist party as u said.. islam is forbidden to be nationalist.. or over nationalist.. every racing is equal in islam.. and this arranges the "racist" relationship between people.. if u r religious person u have to be against nationalism..
i hope this is more clear...
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I still couldn't understand the connection with the video.
I think what you are saying is they are muslims so they shouldn't kill anyone. But that doesn't really make sense, because you can apply this to everyone.Same can be said for all wars and conflicts.Also, yes, Marx said that "religion is the opium of masses", but, everyone is free to choose what they want and one can be religious and be a communist (there are different fractions with different approaches). Socialist ideology is also against the idea of nationalism as well so ...
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 07:19 pm |
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Quoting ruthless87: I am just laughing, I still couldn't understand what was wrong with the video from messages. I also couldn't figure out how the conversation spread out to pkk and then to communists
Actually it was against the people who wore turban and put on make up.
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I find it most interesting how non-turkish speaking foreigners, not even living in Turkey, can ridicule native turks on what is political and what is not...
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 07:26 pm |
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I think to also understand, you need to know what muslims in Arabya are "taught" about the turks. The religous leaders would like you to believe that the Arabic countries have been blessed with oil from God, for being more conservative islamic. At the same time, these same leaders also teach that the turks are being "punished by God" and do not have the "oil wealth" that Kuwait, Saudi, Emirates and others have. Why? Because Turkey chose a secular government and disbanded the Osman government. I can't tell you how many times I have heard this from Arabs when I travel to other middle eastern countries when they find a live in Turkey. They must teach this in the schools because every time, the message is identical.
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 08:42 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: You need to understand a little bit of Turkish culture and the conflicts they are struggling with to see how it is related. And by the way, did you understand the writing in turkish?
And lastly, just because you didn't see a political agenda, it doesn't mean that there's none. So just let people discuss what they feel is important. |
maybe she speaks turkish better than turks and understands their reality better than turks? catwoman, we dont know. it sounded like she indeed knows the language. maybe thats why she keeps insisting on that theres no political message on there?
she claims she doesnt see, maybe she indeed doesnt see, or cant read?
or maybe she needs to go another eye test? maybe after that a different test of a different part of body that fails quite often?
does her post make sense to you?
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 09:41 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting catwoman: You need to understand a little bit of Turkish culture and the conflicts they are struggling with to see how it is related. And by the way, did you understand the writing in turkish?
And lastly, just because you didn't see a political agenda, it doesn't mean that there's none. So just let people discuss what they feel is important. |
maybe she speaks turkish better than turks and understands their reality better than turks? catwoman, we dont know. it sounded like she indeed knows the language. maybe thats why she keeps insisting on that theres no political message on there?
she claims she doesnt see, maybe she indeed doesnt see, or cant read?
or maybe she needs to go another eye test? maybe after that a different test of a different part of body that fails quite often?
does her post make sense to you? |
Assuming as you quoted Catwoman you are referring to her as "she"? Then if that is the case reread her message (the one you quoted) and you will see that "she" is actually saying opposite of what you are claiming. Or are you referring to me as "she" cos it was me who mentioned the eye test.  or maybe too much of the falling down water consumed
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 09:57 pm |
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It is evident that a few people's kudos to you made you spoiled too much and nearly drunk; by attempting to attack me you sound a drunk who doesn't know what they do. Be sure, leander, I will sober you up and teach you good manners- sooner or later! You can no longer escape from me!
Quoting leander: So it got deleted.Geez.You didn't need 2 paragraphs to say that. |
Yes, I didn't, and in fact it was you who needed the two paragraph explanation to understand what is what. That's why I wrote them.
Quoting leander: Btw the fact that it got deleted by the admin is proof that it was indeed 'weak in substance rich in insults' |
I see you need also some logic lesson, for your way of thinking is obviously rotten and hardly called 'thinking'. You will learn from me logic in time, but for now you might want to admit the fact that my previous posts weren't deleted is the proof they aren't "weak in substance rich in insults". Whereas all my posts are very similar to one another.
Quoting leander: i decided to be extra careless when i write to you..actually i just started learning gibberish to communicate with you. |
Good decision! Just continue to be so; I know how to make you careful. And never doubt that I will eventually teach you what 'gibberish' mean!
Quoting leander: i insist your reason for attacking him must be his oposing views, |
What the hell are you talking about here? What views? Whose views? His views, at that opposing views! Pah! I will give you just one example to our replies to each ohter, you can read more through my all messages:
Me: In every language 'bread' means either Jean Valjean or Marie Antoinette!
KeithL: Very clever....too bad you can't sing though...
Me: Believe me, KeithL, I can even sing you, let alone songs!
Me: Ah, in case, I didn't understand what you meant by 'sing', let me put it this way. I can sing! And I am a thief! Yes, a thief I am! Happy is one who steals, especially bread (and wine and the hearts)!
Now tell me what is that that can be called 'view' or related to 'view' in the above dialogues? Obviously you don't know what 'view' mean, for you haven't your own.
Quoting leander: an organisation that doesn't mind killing even kurdish babies, just because his/her parents didn't support that bloody terror organisation, attacking posters with oposing views |
Quoting leander: the memory of those innocent young people your beloved PKK murderers killed 2 weeks ago in Ankara.I still recall the smiling face of that young 22 year old girl that died there while trying to earn money to support her old, sick father and brothers. |
Stop pulling out all the pathetic stop and trying to gain more supporters, by writing such first page newspaper news. Believe me, there is no use in your foxiness! Even if all the users at TC supported you, for me you are a lonely victim nonetheless. They can't help you even if they liked!
Quoting leander: We won't be dealing with it for much longer, don't worry |
It is you who do worry! Otherwise you wouldn't have talked about PKK here and there, even while the subject is not PKK.
Quoting leander: also if others whose views you don't like, agree with others posts they must be in flattering for a gain..what was the term...sycophentic.. |
Are you sure you really carry a brain in your head? With the hope you carry one, let me tell you what is what: My having used the term 'sycophentic' was totally because it was KeithL who replied your post, but NOT because it was you whom he replied. It was all about KeithL; this means that if he hadn't replied you I wouldn't even give a reply either or if he had replied someone else, I would still use 'sycophentic'. Don't flatter yourself, you see you are out of the subject here.
Quoting leander: Frankly panta, judging by the weakness and incoherence of your above posts ,you are the last one here to intimidate anyone on a political debate.Sorry but im not impressed at all and i don't think i will ever be impressed by anything you will say in the future. |
Oh, c'mon! Why did you suddenly decide not to play the game anymore? Isn't it too early? Why do you give up? You might get the chance to obtain more kudos by attacking me. You might enchant people again; yes, you might do that! So, my advice to you is, don't run away!
Quoting leander: Im rarely here, especially during the week |
No problem! We rarely see each other then!
Quoting leander: but what makes you think even if i find the time on the weekend, i would come here to waste my time engaging in a futile fight with a PKK member/supporter like you? |
While barking at me, you weren't wasting your time, were you? Why mentioning 'wasting time' now?
Quoting leander: the memory of those innocent young people your beloved PKK murderers killed 2 weeks ago in Ankara.I still recall the smiling face of that young 22 year old girl that died there while trying to earn money to support her old, sick father and brothers. |
Again, while barking at me, you didn't remember "those innocent young people my beloved PKK murderers killed 2 weeks ago in Ankara and the smiling face of that young 22 year old girl that died there while trying to earn money to support her old, sick father and brothers". Because it was all nice then! But now you are looking for excuses to run away!
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 09:58 pm |
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Quoting libralady: Then if that is the case reread her message |
Are you being serious LL?? Wouldn't you do some re-reading?
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 10:03 pm |
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Quoting libralady:
Assuming as you quoted Catwoman you are referring to her as "she"? Then if that is the case reread her message (the one you quoted) and you will see that "she" is actually saying opposite of what you are claiming. Or are you referring to me as "she" cos it was me who mentioned the eye test. or maybe too much of the falling down water consumed |
ms. marathon
you have again confirmed your foolishness (or maybe drunkness?). going for anoter eye test? or you going to check your other part that keeps failing?
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 10:04 pm |
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Quoting leander: Damn.There was me thinking that i was mocking a killing bird, it turns out i was killing a mocking bird. |
Just keep satisfying yourself; as you can guess, I derive much pleasure from seeing you satisfying yourself.
Quoting leander: I just checkd some if his other posts and you are probably right sui,sorry fanta.Being rarely here,im not familiar with his writing style,so i had to take his word for it when he repeatedly said that he is a PKK supporter. |
Good morning leander! How are you this morning? I hope you hadn't a horror dream. Ouh, do you know that the way of your waking up from your dream told us that you carry something brain-like in your head; because if you really could "think", you couldn't hope that I might be fool that much. So you would expect me to reveal that I am a pkk supporter even if I were really so, eh? Poor leander! The thing is that I ruined your plan by saying earlier than your accusing me that I was a ppk supporter, which you would eventually label me as.
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 10:05 pm |
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only cowards and stupid delete and modify their posts.
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04 Jun 2007 Mon 10:09 pm |
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And only dogs bark!
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