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02 Jun 2007 Sat 02:13 pm |
Quoting azade: Ya rab!
I understand where you are coming from MrX67. Your efforts are applauded from this side and it is indeed sad to see that everything has to be turned into a combat on political views nowadays. Sigh. |
Really? Where were you when AKP propagandists spam the board with zillions of anti-state, anti secular articles and irrelevant AKP eulogies on Turkey section back to back, taken from the same islamist source?
Oh wait you were there....one of the first ones to applaud them! Yet when people get tired of it and react to it, by exposing the political nature of the things they post, you have the nerve to claim we are the ones who brought politics here?
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 02:21 pm |
Quoting leander: Quoting azade: Ya rab!
I understand where you are coming from MrX67. Your efforts are applauded from this side and it is indeed sad to see that everything has to be turned into a combat on political views nowadays. Sigh. |
Really? Where were you when AKP propagandists spam the board with zillions of anti-state, anti secular articles and irrelevant AKP eulogies on Turkey section back to back, taken from the same islamist source?
Oh wait you were there....one of the first ones to applaud them! Yet when people get tired of it and react to it, by exposing the political nature of the things they post, you have the nerve to claim we are the ones who brought politics here?
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whats ur problem????
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 02:22 pm |
AlphaF > where is that coming from? Surely you are not aware of my standpoints and I for one also do not wish to discuss them here because obviously it's not possible to have such a debate without swearing.
leander > would you kindly show me where I have have applauded anti-secular propaganda? And by the way I'm 100 % for keeping Turkey secular.
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:10 pm |
Quoting MrX67: and i think you don't aware of you giving so big harm to people with this worries and selfish democracy opinions,Opposite as your saids you just want democracy for only urself,and you say democracy is exist just how you understood. |
Which harm? There, im not talking about democracy maybe you cannot understand, or you do not want to undestand and blaming me. im talking about rules of democracy that are valid in Türkiye now and those are the rules, laws which people like you try to make flexible by saying tolerance…I only want people to obey the rules of Republic, respect to the judgement, isnt that democratic right???Then i became selfish but you are TOLERANT and democratic however you dont like the rules(because you are tolerant???) according to your view of democracy, and saying tolarence what a contrast is this…
Quoting leander: Really? Where were you when AKP propagandists spam the board with zillions of anti-state, anti secular articles and irrelevant AKP eulogies on Turkey section back to back, taken from the same islamist source? |
That is true, when i first joined to TC, i sent a letter to admin about one of these AKP propagandist article reminding admin the forum rule number 10…But i realised that nothing would have happened and i got no answer to my letter, so i began to write under these topics about politics.
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:19 pm |
It is very sad that a few harmless photos on YouTube can provoke such unreasonable behaviour. Opinions will differ but does that mean everyone is wrong?
Is it not about time this thread was locked??
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:23 pm |
i think you sleeping and waking with the same political worries armegon,i didn't make anything for any political propaganda,but seems some some of friends very skilfull about that??no worries,might i do care more then you about woman rights or secularism.i believe and trust my country and people,i trust and respect to all organizations of my country,but i respect to cultural diversities and i believe things easier when we been tolerated to diversities...
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:38 pm |
Quoting leander: 1-Only a small percentage of turkish people live in rural areas.
Vast majority of Turks live in cities.Only Istanbuls population reached 25 million which is more than 1/3 of Turkey...add other cities to that in which tens of millions of people live...So how come some people claim only people who live in rural areas,farmers are the only representatives of turkish "culture"?
2-The purpose of this video may be open to interpretation but the reason for posting such a video here is clear,especially since this place have been invaded by islamist AKP propagandists who post anti-secular, anti state, pro headscarf islamist articles three times a day.They probably want to say with this: "Look this is the turkish culture! Wearing headscarfs! Türban is just a modernised version of it." Which is actually the oposite of the message of the video.'Cus it says in turkish that those political islamist "türban" wearing models have nothing in common with those hardworking humble rural women.Also they wear headscarf not for islamist reasons,- if you look closer you can see some oftheir hair- , but for tradition and protection from the sun 'cause they work in the farm all day long.
3-I think people who have a critical aproach and question the women rights in rural Turkey here have much more love and respect for those women than the ones who say they are "proud " of their condition and cloths and the way they live, cus it represents the "culture" they approve and want to preserve as islamists, who want to see women covered from head to toe, their role limited to geting married to the one their parents want them to, raising children and doing whats told by their husband, whom many of them didn't even had the chance to choose by themselves.
No need to attack catwoman and others just because they don't faint with delight and admiration to the "culture" when they see a 65 year old women wearing old ragged cloths and carrying heavy loads in her back while probably their men are playing cards in the "kahvehane".
I admire village people, they are wonderful in many ways, but the role of women is not one of those admirable qualities.
It's funny how some islamists who constantly talk about human rights and democracy when it comes to being allowed wearing headscarves in universities, get mad and accuse others of disrespecting the "culture" when people point out to severe woman rights violations in rural areas or islamist circles.
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absolutely bright, genious, brilliant! there are no words more! im speechless!
thank you again!
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:39 pm |
Quoting libralady: It is very sad that a few harmless photos on YouTube can provoke such unreasonable behaviour. Opinions will differ but does that mean everyone is wrong?
Is it not about time this thread was locked?? |
simply, dont read!
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:54 pm |
i request to admins for close to thread,i think no need to talk about more?
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 05:00 pm |
mrx,
thats it, when islamists and others attacked catwoman, you seemed enjoying it and didnt ask to close the thread? when they spoke things that may fit your mentality it was ok.
now when some clever turks spoke up, and you want it to be closed? strange, you think so?
now im pretty sure you posted the video with some purpose, always acting as innocent as angel. i dont trust you.
i ask admins not to close the thread.
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02 Jun 2007 Sat 05:06 pm |
Quoting femme_fatal: mrx,
thats it, when islamists and others attacked catwoman, you seemed enjoying it and didnt ask to close the thread? when they spoke things that may fit your mentality it was ok.
now when some clever turks spoke up, and you want it to be closed? strange, you think so?
now im pretty sure you posted the video with some purpose, always acting as innocent as angel. i dont trust you.
i ask admins not to close the thread. |
really not easy to believe why this big anger femme,i respect to all,even if they are thinking different then me,and i never enjoyed when things gone wrong,but really not easy to belive how you can creat such a big discussion after an innocent video,and how you can blame me with not to be innocent?without don't know me,but seems you in a big rage with somethings,and trying to revenge for somethings??
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