I marvel at your skills .  

 Yes dear   

Hey, you´re giving me far too much credit for my words.  Everything I´ve said has been in the open and if you think you need to say what you´ve just said you obviously think everyone else on this site hasn´t got the gumption to see it . . . have more belief in your fellow members

I´m wondering if this is a personal attack on me by any chance . . . oh  woe is me!!  I´m being persecuted by the GGG . . . HELLLLLLLLLLLLLP!!

Dramatic enough ?  Perhaps I overdid the emotion just a tad . . . What d´ya think?

 "gang" ? Why are you so obsessed with gangs?  Don´t tell me . . .  you´re a Republican !  

ATTENTIONNNNNNN !!!!!    

And life is so much more interesting off the tracks

Thank you for the public warning Ma´am. 

But actually I did stick to the topic of conversation.  It was you who chose to mention Jihad in the manner you did and you even admitted you didn´t give much thought to the remark.  I think I had every right to highlight it once you brought it into the arena .  In effect what you are saying is that anyone can make any comment they like in order to make a point and nobody should comment on it.  Sorry but I don´t think this is covered by the rules and this sort of thing happens all the time on the site and quite right too.  If people are allowed to make comments that could be construed as offensive or inflamatory in order to make a point about something else, then members have the right to comment and make a judgement.   

As a member of this site such comments ARE my business as they are everyone else´s and as such you don´t have the right to try and censor only when it suits you. 

Life´s tough at the top CW and I know it´s not easy being a Mod.  It´s must be difficult to police all the posts on all the threads to make sure everyone is following the rules.  This incident is highlighted because you are directly involved but, believe me, threads take different routes all the time because of a comment someone makes whilst addressing the original topic of conversation, some light hearted and some less so.

btw I think you´ll find that I don´t make that many personal attacks and rarely do I use words such as hypocrite, double standards etc and rarely do I complain about what is said about me personally (I don´t see the point).  That´s the first time I´ve addressed your claim and it will be the last because it´s futile to get into such discussion and it doesn´t bother me what you think or want others to think about me. What I am guilty of is jumping in and commenting if I think someone has been badly treated.  That is also probably against the rules, but often done by many here.  Having said that, I do remember giving you a piece of my mind before I left a while ago, it´s not really my style and I apologise.

Sorry to the thread´s contributors for digressing on this post.

I think you are being a little dramatic CW.  My comment was a personal remark about your style, but it wasn´t an attack.  To be honest, I didn´t think it would bother you. I don´t think my remark was any worse than remarks others, including yourself, have made on the forums from time to time (if this makes me a hypocrite, then so be it). 

Someone in Turkey told me last year that they wouldn´t be putting the clocks back this Autumn but I don´t know if that´s correct.

I think the majority of people want to look presentable/aesthetically pleasing.  Sexual attraction does not have to be part of the scenario.  Don´t forget the "feel good factor".  If we feel good about ourselves we feel happier and it has a knock on effect for the people around us.  Where I work colleagues are always complimenting each other on aspects of their appearance and it is a 95% female workforce. 

As far as girls feeling depressed when they reach puberty and boys feeling more confident goes, I don´t believe this is entirely true or due to external factors.  Females are more prone to fluctuations in their seratonin levels for starters and this can affect the way they feel.  As for boys, I don´t agree they are more confident as adolescents, for instance problems with facial acne can affect their confidence (although I am aware this can affect girls too).

Of course external factors can negatively affect boys as much as girls in adolescence and it stays with many of them.  They have hang ups about : premature baldness; lack of height; inability to grow a beard; length of p**is; sexual performance; how to approach girls;

I don´t think any of these things makes a boy more confident. 

Of course there are those who dress to be provocative as has been discussed here but I don´t think that´s the majority, this sector simply gets more publicity because it´s more newsworthy.  And of course the way someone dresses  shouldn´t be a green light for the opposite sex to make an unwanted move.

Catwoman was right when she mentioned the complexity of the issue and I think this is one of those subjects where everyone has made valid points.

 Well we´ll never know now, whether you were referring to terrorism or not,  will we? You had ample time to explain yourself, even Ros and I gave you an opportunity.  Jihad has more than one meaning and I think one of them may involve violence.  Your post above confirms you were in fact relating to violence when you used the term. 

My response to your original comment was reflecting my opinion that you could actually have used an example that didn´t involve a negative view of Islam, but then why should you spoil the habit you are accustomed to. 

About ´removing incentives´, I wonder if any studies have been carried out?  So what would happen to our appearance and how we view others?  Perhaps this is what life might be like:

 modified http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRlV5RuZ-R0  sorry posted the wrong link originally

 Congratulations! Very neatly engineered.

btw   What do you look for in your ideal man?