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Thread: Help please

791.       slavica
814 posts
 30 Jul 2005 Sat 11:43 am

Maybe somone of you kind people could help me to dowload song ARAB by Mustafa Sandal?
Thanks in advance



Thread: Personal information

792.       slavica
814 posts
 30 Jul 2005 Sat 12:26 am

Hello, Lyndie
Welcome back!
I'm happy to hear that I'm not the only mother in this site!
I like your essay very much and I'm looking forward to read some more.
I would also be glad to join Bliss staying in your hotel in Turkey one day.
I completely understand your feelings - I live in place where bad things were happening, when I was afraid for lives of my children as you are now.
I wish if bad things would never happen to anyone.
Waiting impatiently for your essays, impressions and photos,
HoşÃ§akal,
Slavica



Thread: Istanbul my love

793.       slavica
814 posts
 25 Jul 2005 Mon 03:22 pm

Hi Erdinç,
I've read it very carefully and with great pleasure.
I conceive myself qualified to say thet it's exellent.
I can only wish more titles inspiring for you.
(Thanks for explanation)
Best wishes,
Slavica



Thread: Istanbul my love

794.       slavica
814 posts
 25 Jul 2005 Mon 01:00 pm

CONGRATULATIONS, ERDINÇ!
I'm breathless! You're such a poet!

By the way, why everybody talk about Istabul as a woman?
Did I miss something?

Regards,
Slavica



Thread: To Slavica!

795.       slavica
814 posts
 24 Jul 2005 Sun 11:11 pm

I'm really touched, Bliss...
Thank you from all my heart.
Seems that this time I was lucky enough ...



Thread: If

796.       slavica
814 posts
 24 Jul 2005 Sun 11:16 am

For Bliss and our classmates, classic poem by Rudyard Kipiling

If…


IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
' Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

I hope it could be chalenge for someone to translate it on Turkish...



Thread: Using of suffix “diğ”

797.       slavica
814 posts
 22 Jul 2005 Fri 09:33 pm

Hi Erdinç,
You can't imagine how much your support and advices help to feel better, motivate and give us strenght for learning! You've just said what I always thought, but I coldn't say: Understanding is the most important part. Reading Russian, I was very often in situation to understand readen text, but not be able to translate it. Now I see that it's not so important.
As about Turkish, I found it very different on first sight! So different that I gave up from learning it. But, with the time, I started to like it just because of this difference. Now I learn it with great pleasure.
And with such teacher as you are, I'm sure that I will be succesful.
Thanks again and again, Erdinç.
Kendine iyi bak
Slavica



Thread: How do you understand friendship?

798.       slavica
814 posts
 22 Jul 2005 Fri 09:31 pm

Hi Bliss,
I have the same problem - putting my knowledge into practice, as you could see from my posts. And also don't have oportunity to talk Turkish to anybody, except TC classmates. I was afraid when I come one day to Turkey that I couldn't speak with people after all that learning! But Erdinç is really great teacher. I'm sure that you've already read his last "lesson", but I must repeat his exellent advices:
- With translations we need to be flexible. If you understand the meaning this is enough to go on learning. You might or might not translate it in any other language. Understanding is the most important part.
- You need to relax and enjoy swimming in foreign seas
As for using Russian in learning Turkish – yes, I did think about this, but I gave up, because I'm enough confused with three languages mixed in my head.
As I already said, it helps much if you know that others have the same problems as you do. I think we could make everything well together!
Kendine iyi bak!
Slavica



Thread: How do you understand friendship?

799.       slavica
814 posts
 22 Jul 2005 Fri 02:29 pm

Exellent idea using Russian for explanation, Bliss! Since in my native language also exist separate words for DOST and ARKADAŞ and since I spaek Russian too, now I apsolutely understand the difference. Ochen horosho sdelano



Thread: Using of suffix “diğ”

800.       slavica
814 posts
 22 Jul 2005 Fri 02:19 pm

Merhaba again and thanks again, Erdinç!

I gave you some short time for helping other people, and now I'm continuing with my questions.

My first question is: can we use the infinitive instead “accusative+verb=verbal noun”?
I like swimming. > Yüzmeyi severim.
I like to swim. > Yüzmek severim.
Like in: I want to see you > Seni görmek istiyorum.
or I want to buy shoes > Ayakkabı almak istiyorum
If this is the same, version with infinitive is more acceptable for me (in spirit of my language)

I found the site you mentioned – it’s great – all cases on one page! So I compared it with cases in my language, and, yes, I was right, we use The Genitive in both situations when in Turkish is using Ablative and Genitive. It's easier in English – Genitive is for "of" and Ablative is for "from"

Now I’m alittle confused about Dative. I think that sometimes Dative is used in Turkish where we use Accusative in English and my language.
Deli diyorlar bana.
(Sorry, I couldn't think better example but this part of Tarkan's song!)
- Literally translated it is "They call crazy TO ME". But we use Accusative and say "They call ME crazy". Am I right? (And am I complicated?)

My next question is about Imperative. I found lessons about all tenses and moods (Present, Aorist, Future, miş-past, di-past, Conditional…), but I couldn't find anything about Imperative. I only know that it is formed by dropping the "-mek" or "-mak" from the Infinitive, and adding "-me" or "-ma" for negative.
unutmak - to forget
unut beni – forget me
unutma beni – don't forget me
And what's happening if I talk to more persons? Or I want to tell that somebody has to do something? I'm sure you'll recommend to me some useful link.
Thanks in advance. I hope I will soon know Turkish so well that I won't need to bother you with more questions.
Kendine iyi bak
Slavica



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