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Thread: Turkish Boyfriends and Girlfriends.

1121.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Sep 2010 Fri 03:07 am

 

Quoting barkindo

we don´t hear about rape/incest cases in the  West, because by the time the kids are old enough to have sex they are sleeping around like mad anyway.  A German teeny magazine recently put teeny sized condoms into their supplement, because they said the adult condoms are too big for the 12-year-olds!  There is little need for incest, if sex is so freely available.  

when i was a student my university professor told us we should visit the Springfield ( Missouri) shopping mall on a Saturday morning, and we´ll observe the results of inbreeding quite nicely, he said if the Ozark Hillbillies don´t bother their sisters, then they´ll go for their cows! 

My point is this---incest is always a problem in thinly populated, rural areas, or in extremely repressive societies. It is also more likely in large, extended families. When my uncle tried it on with me, his daughter simply said: ´That pig will do it with anyone if he is drunk!´ We learned to avoid such situations, it was part of growing up and knowing not to trust adults.   

So i believe you that there may be a high rate of incest, whatever it may be, but it has nothing to do with being Turkish or Kurdish, but with the socio-economic background the family lives in.  

 

That was the point basically.

But however incest or which part of the world has the higher rate of incest should not have been a base of any argument in the first place..

But I agree about the idea that  "in repressive societies it is more common". 

I think at some stage, the point was honor killings and why they were  happening in arabic countries and mainly in islamic world..

It will be a bit difficult to come and say ´honor killings in the west are as common as in arabic countries or in Islamic world´. (I mean you can say it..but.. it will be a lie and you will know it is a lie!!!)

There is a truth, there is the problem we have to acknowledge first *acknowleding is the first step for solving this..* and then fight it..

Denial  wont be helping the future cases..

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Thread: 10 people got killed :(

1122.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Sep 2010 Fri 02:22 am

 

Quoting armegon

No you are wrong, how come? they all boycotted the election, obeyed pkk, smell of Ergenekon there, Commandos from Hakkari Commando Brigade forgot their bag on the crime scene and also used mines made in Russia, I think taraf newspaper give a start to research, soon we can hope a video Turkish Commandos laying the mines, or a radio talk celebrating eachother how they killed the babies of ovepopulating Kurds...

 

 

I hope we dont end up like it happened in the incident a year ago..

Do you remember there was a very similar incident.. PKK planting a mine and killing 6 soldiers..

And later on, it turned out to be the mine was put by our army!! (later on we learnt it from a  recorded voice on the net..)

I am still abit cautious about this incident..There are videos around and they show some mines etc..

We should wait and see!!

 



Thread: 10 people got killed :(

1123.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 17 Sep 2010 Fri 02:13 am

 

Quoting barkindo

my guess is because too many events happened in Turkish history- which made Christians believe that Turks are a threat. Remember, Turkey was a major world power until WW1.  I grew up only ever hearing negative things about the Turks, and even in 2010, when i was visiting my boyfriend in Turkey, my mother said to me:  You will get abducted with that dress!  {#emotions_dlg.confused}  Turks embody everything Christians love to hate--- steamy harems, jealous husbands, a preoccupation with sex, violence,...  so the Christian flirtation with the Kurds is a ´your enemy is my enemy´ reaction.

i am saddened that people loose their lives over stupid politics.  my friend visited Var, very recently, and he was not impressed by the level of animosity and violence shown even by the children.   Hate begets hate, and this cycle has to end!

 

 

 

How much do you think your mother knows the Turks?

To be honest, it is the first time I have heard of this "the Christian flirtation with the Kurds is a ´your enemy is my enemy´ reaction".. Are you sure? lol

As far as the reason for the West being sympathetic to Kurds of Turkey is completely different.  There is whole range of issues such as thousands of Kurds immigrating to the west and telling the stories like banned Kurdish language; burning many Kurdish villages; torture; killings etc.. At some stage, anybody proving that they were coming from east of Turkey and saying that they were Kurds  were allowed in..I think it was in 1990s when the burning of the villages were taking place.. There are thousands of human rights violation  cases in EU Human rights courts. Many times Turkey was found guilty unfortunately _Just the day before yesterday, Turkey was found guilty in Hrant Dink case and has to pay thousands of Euros...

It always seemed to me that  emphty with the people who is oppressed.

Same as Vanessa Redgrave being sympathetic towards the Chechens..

 

 



Edited (9/17/2010) by thehandsom



Thread: 10 people got killed :(

1124.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 05:58 pm

No.. You can not..

According to  AFP everybody is denying the attack..

I hope it is not Deep State again.. We will see..

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jsvDSGVMzTF0LUJy3e_YsYK5aNRQ 



Thread: Turkish Boyfriends and Girlfriends.

1125.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 05:40 pm

 

Quoting stumpy

 

You seem to think that people are out to get you or put you down and have to show your superiority by putting others down. ..

 

Spot on!!!! lol lol 

ha ha ha



Thread: Turkish Boyfriends and Girlfriends.

1126.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 05:39 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

This has reminded an article I posted one year ago:

31.       si++
1452 posts
 06 Oct 2009 Tue 12:31 am

 

Doğu ve Güneydoğu Anadoluda her dört evden birinde ensest ilişki ve cinsel istismar yaşanıyor. Ne yazık ki toplumun mevcut tabuları yüzünden bu konuda kimse yüksek sesle konuşamıyor. KAMER Başkanı Nebahat Akkoç

 

In East and Southeast of Turkey (Where mostly Kurds live), there are incest relations and sexual abuse in one out of four houses but nobody can speak up about it because of the taboos. -- Nebahat Akkoç

 

Quoted form the this link

 

 

 

I think I remember that..If I am not wrong, I said, "possibly it is true." Though 1 in 4 houses is a bit suspicious..

But when you read the newspapers, the turkish newspapers, OMG, what the heck is that!! I mean the rape cases/incest cases we hear in the western counties are almost nothing!! What we are seeing in Turkish papers are mainly the incidents hapenning in the west part of Turkey which is relatively more modern comparing to the east of Turkey (they are not Kurds!!)

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Thread: 10 people got killed :(

1127.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 05:37 pm

There might be more in this..

However, but I dont think everybody has "right" to complain about these.. Specially  people  who try to belittle Kurds with their racist remarks.. In the end, those are the people responsible this war...



Thread: 10 people got killed :(

1128.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 04:14 pm

A roadside bomb attack killed at least 10 people Thursday in the latest violence that shook Turkey´s turbulent southeast..

 

 Earlier CNN-Türk television, citing Cihan news agency, had put the death toll at 12, but authorities confirmed eight deaths.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-221807-roadside-bomb-kills-10-aboard-minibus-in-turkey.html 

 



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1129.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 11:55 am

I changed my mind.. May be later



Edited (9/16/2010) by thehandsom



Thread: Turkish Boyfriends and Girlfriends.

1130.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 16 Sep 2010 Thu 11:52 am

I am serious.. I just saw it in yesterday´s newspapers. A guy, who is not Kurdish, abused his daughter, his relatives and he was even abusing or planning to abuse (I could not read the rest.. It makes me sick) his grand daughter.. And a month ago or maybe a few months ago, it was like 2 similar cases every week in the papers(for the info, they were not Kurds mainly)..

God´s sake!! You just wonder sometimes, what the percentage they make in real numbers!!

It is a really difficult thing to bring it up  as far as the girls are concerned.. The real numbers  can be really high..



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