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Thread: Lost Songs of Anatolia

1161.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 03:09 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

Firstly, I don´t think I am something to be called racist. That´s your f**king idea. I don´t care what you think.

Secondly I don´t care about the percentage of central Asian genes in me. I am still happy/proud to call myself Turk.

Thirdly, I don´t understand why you are so concerned with those genes??

 

And back to the topic. Sorry I cannot connect to utube nor have a proper player installed on my pc to listen to that song. And I will not bother myself with finding some ways to conect to utube or installing a proper media player for it.

 

 

Did you put your hand on your heart and looked at the mirror and asked the question? 

It is not my idea.. That is what they call it in generic terms all around the world..

I think you should connect to youtube and listen to that song..

It made me and some others literary to cry.. (I felt the same when I read a book ´black burial clothes-kara kefen´. It was about a woman whose family got killed during 1915 when she was 10/11 yo and raised by a Kurdish family and then she got married to a Kurd and had kids etc.. She had to hide her pain in her entire life!! She simply was not allowed to talk about it as if it was her crime and the worse, she could not even share it with her own children. Can you imagine a life in which you even think you can not tell your sorrow to your own off springs? She, in the end, very close to her death, asked to be buried in black burial clothes as her dying will..And when she dies, her daughter realizes the suffering her mom had to go through and the guilt because she could not share it with her mom.. It is like thinking your mother was close to you but all those times, she was unable to share her grief and then when you realize it, your mom  has gone forever without telling it to her!!... That woman who was singing in that link..very sweetly, bitterly but with all her innocence, she was still trying to say that she is from Anatolia she was still trying to say that she belongs there... I felt so sorry for her.. so sorry that I could not do anything for her.. But only thing I can  do is that to share or trying to understand the pain she has been suffering)

Just a bit of compassion about what we have done to those people.. 

 



Edited (9/10/2010) by thehandsom



Thread: Lost Songs of Anatolia

1162.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 02:00 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I am not interested in what you call racist/racism. I don´t care whether you call me racist or whatever. I know what I am. You are the one who continuously keep bringing up the subject about Armenian/Kurdish genes in people who happily calls them Turks. I can sense your discomfort with that. You do it on purpose, you are not happy to call yourself Turk, that´s for sure. You find some relief by thinking about the Armenian/Kurdish genes you have in your genetic code. That´s fine but why do always keep mentioning here? Be happy with those genes in you that´s OK, but stop mentioning, it´s getting f**king boring.

 

 

Well I know you are proud of being a racist!! In fact, almost all racists are proud of themselves.. 

I dont have a problem with calling myself a Turk..I have never had and I will never be.. But I know there are many in Turkey they dont call themselves as Turks. Obviously that bothers "the racists". And those racists should respect people who dont call themselves Turks and understand that those people are the owner of that country as much as them selves.

In the end, it is a good thing that those racists realize they are simply not from central Asia and they carry the genes of those people they despise and try to belittle. It is good for them to know that they are genetically more Greek/Armenians/Kurds than central Asian Turks..  

But.. lets get back to the topic..

Can you feel the pain in that song I mentioned? have you listened to it? can you realize that what sort of pain it might be? what sort of pain we inflicted on those people? can we try to be a little bit human to understand her suffering?  



Edited (9/10/2010) by thehandsom



Thread: Turkey launched the process of recognizing Armenian Genocide???

1163.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 11:46 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

We can see your point clearly. You just have added another thread of yours with heading (so-called) "Armenian genocide" in it. Well done. Keep working.

 

You missed the point, I was trying to make, with a huge margin too..

To cut it simple: 

Two/three years ago I was making points here about Turkish nationalism, Kurdish issue and all other topics.. You were one of the people here who accused me with all sorts of things as if it was the end of Turkey or end of the world. And now, what is happening? The PM of Turkey is saying almost the same things: He talked about Diyarbakir prison; he talked  about the pain of people who were taken from their homes and killed by the army personnel after tortures; Kurds are talking about democratic autonomy; state people are speaking to Abdullah Ocalan; ´ne mutlu turkum diyene´ words are being cleared in kurdish areas etc.. So, I was right about those things two years ago..

Now as far as the Armenian issue is concerned, I am telling or predicting that something will change!! It has to change.. Because the way we are acting  is so shameful for all of us all over the world!!  I kept reading that Turkey is planning to shift its position on the issue and the pressure we will have in 2015 (100th anniversary of the incident) .. Now G Deperdau  says that he heard the similar thing!! That was the point..



Edited (9/10/2010) by thehandsom



Thread: Lost Songs of Anatolia

1164.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 11:32 am

 

Quoting si++

 

 

Firstly I am the one who is too concerned with their Armenian/Kurdish genes. I simply don´t care about my genetic codes.

Secondly I doubt if he´s a Turk. Of course you wouldn´t. You should know better than me who is a Turk or and who is not, right?

 

Excuse me but I hope you are not going to be accusing me "being too harsh on you because I call you a racist".

Look at "what you are writing", read "the definition of racism", then put your hand on your heart and think if you are a racist or not.



Thread: Lost Songs of Anatolia

1165.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 10 Sep 2010 Fri 12:41 am

It was simply a feast for ears..

But generally it was more than that just music really..It was the story of Anatolia.. It was what we have in people.. A completely mixture of cultures.. Turks, Kurds, Armenians, Caucasions, Greeks ..A culture, distilled through thousands of years of different civilizations..

Where is the emptiness of Turkish History thesis (It is called TTT- Turk Tarih Tezi, which tries to prove everybody in Anatolia is a Turk and we are all from  central Asia. We brought civilization to everybody etc) and where is the reality?

Just listen to the song after skipping 3 minutes.. Listen to the old Armenian woman singing ..

I am able to feel her pain from her voice..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF_bmqT0cpw&p=0D290FC2BC150B0E&index=7



Thread: Lost Songs of Anatolia

1166.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Sep 2010 Thu 02:01 pm

The movie..

Time : Tonight at 19:30 (9 Sept 201

Location: RenkArt Sanat Merkezi  86 Stoke Newington High Street, Stoke Newington N16 7PA 


A musical journey among exotic places and people of Anatolia, unique host of ancient civilizations of 10 millennia. The authentic performances recorded live on location spontaneously. With the modern arrangements made, an incomparable musical is formed

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1541613/

It is a documentary about the lost songs of Anatolia.. 

Songs like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfE5VTxNmF0&feature=related



Thread: Two pennies for your thoughts ....!!

1167.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Sep 2010 Thu 01:54 pm

Oopsy daisy!!!



Thread: ŞEKER BAYRAMI (09.09.2010-11.09.2010)

1168.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 09 Sep 2010 Thu 11:15 am

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Thread: Turkey launched the process of recognizing Armenian Genocide???

1169.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Sep 2010 Wed 10:59 pm

Well.. Again,  the point  was nothing to do with his friends, his enemies, his family or his dogs or juliet Binoche ..

Geez!!



Thread: Polat will take the revenge of Blue Marmara

1170.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Sep 2010 Wed 11:47 am

 

Quoting timeless

i disagree some members who think that this film should be banned ..why do you think negatively? otherwise it shouldnt be forbidden..the valley of the wolfves iraq was rather an explanatory film.and now, i think that the valley of the wolfves palestin will determine the relations between Israel and the turkey. this film gave us some information on some politic problems like that.. please dont be negative. .i am sure that some friends who think about it should be banned " watch it pleasurely and they are going to watch the valley of the wolfves palestin on 5 november ..

 

Well.. I think watching the introduction fragment of Kurtlar vadisi will give an idea..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWaeRxciaQ

EU is being shown as a group that is planning to devide Turkey into four.. The same EU we are trying to get into.. The same EU, millions of Turks are living. Israil is shown as country planning to devide Turkey into three.

There are some people really believe that is true!!  What sort of generations those people will be? what sort of mentality will they have? Creating imaginary enemies, imaginary occupations, imaginary splitting of your countries are more different than with giving maps, naming countries, declaring them enemies..

I think this series are simply advocating racism and violence. 

No wonder why almost all surveys are showing a serious xenophobia in Turkey.

 



Edited (9/8/2010) by thehandsom



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