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Thread: Ergenekon case / Time for verdict arrives

341.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 08 Aug 2013 Thu 11:03 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

That sounds strange, is this good? Journalists who helped organize anti government protests sentenced for 16 years in prison? 

 

Not good at all.

I think there have been serious mistakes during the trials. Apart from everything else, the definition of terrorism acording to Turkish law is very large and with that law, you can accuse anybody as terrorists (btw..this law was made with the pressure from the army!! in 2007)

There are people there in the trial and sentenced, I would never doubt of their guilt. Veli Kucuk/Alpaslan Alpaslan/Kerincsiz etc. These are the people who arranged the killings of many innocent people including Hrant Dink to create a chaos so that the army can intevene again.

But they put people who have never took a rifle in their hands  in jail too. Those journalists are amongs them (though, the accused journalists still could not explain what they were doing in coup meetings. Only M. Balbay said ´he was there on the journalistic purpose´ and he answered as ´I was going to make a book about it´ when he was asked ´then, why you did not write anything about those coup meetings in your newspaper´

 

Basically, the killings of journalists/intellects etc has stopped since the beggining of this trial. But I dont think The justice is served..

More importantly, I dont think thos trial found the roots of Turkeys deep state.

 

A good source and correct interpretetion :

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/08/ergenekon-verdict-turks-misinterpretation.html

 



Thread: what caught my eye today

342.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 07 Aug 2013 Wed 12:55 pm

French woman rents her breasts!!

A FRENCH woman has posted an online ad offering to breast feed the newborn babies of homosexual couples for $130 a day.

 

The ad, which appeared on French website e-loue and has been verified by their management, came just weeks after France´s same-sex marriage laws were passed.

 

It reads: "I am a young mother in perfect health, a trained nurse of 29, and I am renting my breasts to milk-feed infants."

 

The Paris-based woman promises to feed the infant up to 10 times a day, the Huffington Post reports.

...

A French woman has posted an online ad offering breastfeeding for babies of gay male couples. Picture: Thinkstock

 

Source: http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/french-nurse-offers-to-breastfeed-babies-of-gay-male-couples/story-fnihp1e3-1226692791674

 

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Edited (8/7/2013) by thehandsom



Thread: What is your mood today?

343.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Aug 2013 Tue 05:53 pm

sleepy!!



Thread: Ergenekon case / Time for verdict arrives

344.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 06 Aug 2013 Tue 12:11 am

Turkey´s former armed forces chief has been jailed for life for plotting to overthrow the government, after five years of trials involving officers, lawyers, writers and journalists.

Gen Ilker Basbug was among dozens of people convicted of involvement in the so-called Ergenekon plot.

Critics of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan have accused him of staging show trials to eliminate his enemies.
..
Journalist Tuncay Ozkan, who helped organise a series of anti-government protests in 2007, was given a life sentence with an additional 16 years
Mustafa Balbay, a journalist and MP with the main opposition Republican People´s Party (CHP), was sentenced to 34 years and eight months
Lawyer Kemal Kerincsiz, famous for bringing cases against cultural figures accusing them of "anti-Turkishness", was jailed for life
Workers´ Party leader Dogu Perincek, whose party advocates a mixture of socialism and ultra-nationalism, was jailed for life
...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23571739

Ergenekon: The court case that changed Turkey

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23581891
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Clashes erupt after Turkey trial verdicts
Police disperse protesters gathered around courthouse as ex-army chief and many others sentenced in conspiracy trial.
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/08/201385145137288375.html

Timeline: Turkey´s ´Ergenekon´ trial
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/08/20138512358195978.html
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Turkey´s ex-army chief sentenced to life in prison for coup plot
..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/turkey/10223910/Turkeys-ex-army-chief-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-coup-plot.html

Life sentences for 17 ringleaders of Turkey´s ´Deep State´ coup plot as epic trial concludes with 300 verdicts

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/life-sentences-for-17-ringleaders-of-turkeys-deep-state-coup-plot-as-epic-trial-concludes-with-300-verdicts-8746264.html

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I think, we will be talking about these sentences for a while.

 



Thread: Ergenekon case / Time for verdict arrives

345.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Aug 2013 Mon 12:30 pm

More of Ergenekon case:

A court in Turkey is expected to deliver its verdict later on Monday in the trial of more than 270 people accused of plotting to overthrow the country´s Islamic-rooted government.

 

Among the defendants is a former army chief as well as other army officers, lawyers, academics and journalists.

..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23571739

 

Security forces set up barricades around the courthouse in the Silivri jail complex, west of Istanbul, to tighten security after the defendants´ supporters vowed to hold a demonstration against the five-year trial that has exposed deep divisions in Turkish society.

...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/uk-turkey-ergenekon-idUKBRE97404Q20130805

 

The head of the Union of Turkish Bar Associations (TBB), Metin Feyzioğlu, said that it was more or less possible to predict the verdict of the Ergenekon case which is to be announced at the Silivri courthouse Aug.5....

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ergenekon-verdict-predictable-turkish-bar-head-says.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52018&NewsCatID=339



Thread: Things that do not go unnoticed

346.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Aug 2013 Mon 01:40 am

 

Quoting alameda

How beautiful. I love Kaş, but didn´t see all of this in the video. Are all those photos from Kaş?

 

 

 

I think they are.

Kas is still unspoilt.I think the reason for that is the geography. The geography is not letting it. The mountain sorroundingis not allowing for the growth like oludeniz or other big towns. I love it..

ps..See Alameda, even you and I have something in common 



Thread: Ergenekon case / Time for verdict arrives

347.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 05 Aug 2013 Mon 12:26 am


Time for verdict arrives in Turkey´s major coup plot trial
..
The case, which began in 2007 with the discovery of 27 hand grenades in a house in Istanbul, has seen some of the country’s most prominent figures detained and arrested, including the likes of former Chief of General Staff Gen. İlker Başbuğ, Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputies Mehmet Haberal and Mustafa Balbay and journalists Tuncay Özkan and İlhan Selçuk. A series of high-ranking army personnel, including retired generals Veli Küçük, Hasan Iğsız, Hurşit Tolon and Şener Eruygur, have also been jailed.
The case began with the testimonies of the owners of the house where the explosives were discovered, and the initial indictment, running nearly 3,000 pages, accused the suspects of running a mafia-like terrorist organization that aimed to “push the country back to chaos, darkness and insecurity” in a bid to provoke a military coup ..
.. all lost their mothers during the five-year legal process.
..Some 31 of the 130 witnesses were secret witnesses, while several of them subsequently outed themselves, including former high-level Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) member Şemdin Sakık, whose testimony caused a strong public backlash.

...

source: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/time-for-verdict-arrives-in-turkeys-major-coup-plot-trial.aspx?pageID=238&nID=52014&NewsCatID=339



Thread: Things that do not go unnoticed

348.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Aug 2013 Fri 04:14 pm

 

Quoting Abla

hands was gone and now he is back çok şükür.

 

I was on a holiday and I was here  

 

 



Thread: Army ousts Egypt´s President Morsi

349.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Aug 2013 Fri 01:27 pm

 

Egypt army ´restoring democracy´, says John Kerry

US Secretary of State John Kerry has said Egypt´s military was "restoring democracy" when it ousted elected President Mohammed Morsi last month.

 

Mr Kerry said the removal was at the request of "millions and millions of people".

..

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23543744 

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I think, USA has been proved one more time that as long as the new government is not threatening the USA interests, they will support anything, including the coups.

That was what happened in 1980 in Turkey and the democracy was  held back for decades!!

 



Thread: What are you listening now?

350.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 02 Aug 2013 Fri 11:32 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYVckxZVI_g

Fikrimin ince gulu



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