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Türkçede diyalog .
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20.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 02:45 am

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting TeresaJana:

one example: Im happy to be turkish or Im glad Im turkish?

bir ornek : 'ne' mutlu turkum diye'ne'



Ohh in here,first ne means how same as you say,
How happy i am to be Turk,
That is the exact translation for it

Second ne,is not clear to me.
But i dont think this is the right translation for that sentence.

How happy i am to be turk

Ne mutlu Turk oldum ,i guess

Doğru mu ?



"ne mutlu türküm diyene" means i'm proud to be a turk.

21.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 02:50 am

gezbelle,nasıl ?

22.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 02:52 am

ne mutlu türküm diyene

how happy is he who says i'm a Turk

i am proud to be a turk

23.       bod
5999 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 02:53 am

Quoting CANLI:

gezbelle,nasıl ?



Evet, ben bu bir de bilmek istiyorum!
Yes, I also want to know this!

24.       bod
5999 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 02:57 am

Quoting gezbelle:


"ne mutlu türküm diyene" means i'm proud to be a turk.



Anlamadım

"mutlu" translates as "happy"
"mağrur" translates as "proud"

Why is "i'm proud to be a turk" not
Ne mağrur Türküm diyene

25.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 02:59 am

if you are happy to be a turk...then you would be proud to be a turk değil mi?

26.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 03:05 am

İ understand,its kind of expression,but what i dont understand is what is

diyene ?

And if i want to say im turk,should it be Türküm,or Türkyüm ?

27.       TeresaJana
304 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 03:07 am

this is what i dont understand about 'ne'

does it mean who? or how? and why does it mean who or how in the sentence Ne Mutlu turkum diyene

28.       gezbelle
1542 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 03:11 am

yes, it is a saying, atatürk said it.

i got the breakdown of the sentence from:http://www.seyfihoca.com/forum/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=949

happy is the man who says = diyene ne mutlu

i am Turk = Türküm

29.       CANLI
5084 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 03:15 am

Canım,ne doesnt mean how or who.

İf we talk about question tools,then ne means what .

But here in this sentence it means like an exclamation sentence

Like what happy i am to be Turk,but for translation purposes,and different usage of the words in the diffenet languages,we cant say what happy i am to be Turk,but we translate it like this

How happy i am to be Turk !

Anladın mı ?

30.       panta rei
0 posts
 07 May 2007 Mon 03:17 am

Ne mutlu Türküm diyene!
Happy is one who says I am Turk!

Note that the part "Türküm diyen" is a relative clause.

Türküm diyen (biri) = (One) who says I am Turk

More examples:

"Ethel ve Julious Rosenbergler-ne mutlu size"
Ethel and Julious Rosenberg- happy are you!

"Hep alnımın teriyle çıkardım ekmek paramı
Ne mutlu bana"
I earned my bread money honestly what happiness

Note the case "-e/a" at the end of the pronouns.

I am proud to be Turk would mean

Türk olduğum için mutluyum.
Türk olmaktan mutluyum.

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