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Did I miss a 9-11 thread??
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:41 pm |
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I was thinking about this all week actually. Was very surprised there wasn't a mention of the 9/11 anniversary this week. I don't find it good or bad, just interesting...
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:43 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I was thinking about this all week actually. Was very surprised there wasn't a mention of the 9/11 anniversary this week. I don't find it good or bad, just interesting... |
There was some posts about it, but not on a specific thread.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:44 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I was thinking about this all week actually. Was very surprised there wasn't a mention of the 9/11 anniversary this week. I don't find it good or bad, just interesting... |
Yes, I admit, not many people mentioned it to me either. I almost went all day without someone saying what happened, though the person that did mention it was in America on that date.
I found it strange because every year before that it was a bigger issue (moment of silence etc)
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:46 pm |
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I will admit myself, I remember the day so clearly and really thought there would never be a day that would go by that I didn't think about it. But, like everyone else it seems, we have moved on...
Same in Britain for 7/7?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:51 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I will admit myself, I remember the day so clearly and really thought there would never be a day that would go by that I didn't think about it. But, like everyone else it seems, we have moved on...
Same in Britain for 7/7? |
I haven't completely forgot it. I still think about it now and then. Just as you said, I remember it so clearly but just trying not to dwell in the past too much.
Both of the events I mean.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:51 pm |
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It was certainly remembered in all UK media. However... I am glad some of the attention has died down from the frenzy of previous years. Some of the coverage bordered on a curious sinister voyeurism rather than a respectful memorial.
In addition, the action taken as a result of 9/11 and the thousands of equally innocent people who have been killed since in the name of "revenge", has tainted the way people feel.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:53 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I will admit myself, I remember the day so clearly and really thought there would never be a day that would go by that I didn't think about it. But, like everyone else it seems, we have moved on...
Same in Britain for 7/7? |
when i first saw it on tv, i didnt believe it, until nextmorning papers.
as for 7/7, none of my british friends mentioned it this year. brits are tough guys, they dont waste tears on such unimportant days.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:54 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: as for 7/7, none of my british friends mentioned it this year. brits are tough guys, they dont waste tears on such unimportant days. |
We have so many such days from decades of bombings... 
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:54 pm |
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I won't even go into the "bush response". Jackass....
but the thousands of people that were crushed to death, or the people onboard as they saw the towers coming. Its still so surreal!
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:56 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I won't even go into the "bush response". Jackass....
but the thousands of people that were crushed to death, or the people onboard as they saw the towers coming. Its still so surreal! |
Too true, but I think many people would like to get their hands on one person more than George Bush still.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 08:56 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: I won't even go into the "bush response". Jackass....
but the thousands of people that were crushed to death, or the people onboard as they saw the towers coming. Its still so surreal! |
This is what I mean Keith! People (all of us) were grotesquely fascinated by it. We have to admit it. It was horrifying, vile, but compelling. How many of us were glued to our TVs for the whole day? How many of us wondered what it was like to have been in those buildings? Its human nature, but I don't think it's a good "memorial" to see those images again.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:06 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: It was certainly remembered in all UK media. However... I am glad some of the attention has died down from the frenzy of previous years. Some of the coverage bordered on a curious sinister voyeurism rather than a respectful memorial.
In addition, the action taken as a result of 9/11 and the thousands of equally innocent people who have been killed since in the name of "revenge", has tainted the way people feel. |
I agree with you. I have many family members who worked in and around the NYC area. One of my cousins was trampled very badly by people running away from the blast. I never thought I would get over it and in many ways I am more angry about the response to the attack than the actual attack. It will never bring back any of the people who died on that day. It just makes it harder to move on knowing that the people who died that day where not it's only/last victims.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:27 pm |
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:30 pm |
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I am not sure I like the tone of your comment Ciko. However, with regards to Iraq, as I ALREADY said...
Quoting AEnigma III: In addition, the action taken as a result of 9/11 and the thousands of equally innocent people who have been killed since in the name of "revenge", has tainted the way people feel. |
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:33 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: I am not sure I like the tone of your comment Ciko. However, with regards to Iraq, as I ALREADY said...
Quoting AEnigma III: In addition, the action taken as a result of 9/11 and the thousands of equally innocent people who have been killed since in the name of "revenge", has tainted the way people feel. |
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i dont mean you Aenigma..i meant generally...average people..people on streets..got it?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:33 pm |
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People KNOW that the terrorists were mostly Saudi Arabian and were a terrorist organisation. People KNOW the "war on terror" is a farce.
Does it make us hate the "east"??? No Ciko.
However....we know the "east" hates us....it certainly doesn't help anything... 
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:33 pm |
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Quoting ciko: i am still so sorry for those people in New York and London. it was one of the most horrible things i have ever seen .i just want to ask two questions.i am asking as a turkish wants to know what is happening there.. not to cause any arguement..
does if 9/11 or 7/7 reminds brits and americans of what kind of life people in iraq have everyday? or
does 9/11 or 7/7 make people there hate eastern more and more eachday and make them agree with what their governments do in iraq?
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I can't speak for all Americans, and I certainly can't speak for the British people, but I have never hated anyone. I don't agree with the way my government has dealt with the acts that occured on 9/11. When I see images of Iraq, I feel sad and horrible for what is happening. They live the hell of 9/11 almost daily...and for that I am so sorry and somewhat ashamed. I do love my country but don't always agree with the politicians. I pray that wisdom will prevail in the next election and we can restore some sanity to the world.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:35 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: People KNOW that the terrorists were mostly Saudi Arabian and were a terrorist organisation. People KNOW the "war on terror" is a farce.
Does it make us hate the "east"??? No Ciko.
However....we know the "east" hates us....it certainly doesn't help anything... |
i regret to ask those questions..i just wanted to know what people there reaction to what their governments do. now i am deleting my post..sorry.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:36 pm |
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The truth is, people dont hate the "east" because of 9/11 or 7/7. However, unfortunately, people are starting to dislike "eastern" immigrants in the UK because of their refusal to integrate with us and their view that we are "evil".
This feeling, if it gets out of control, could easily turn to facism and nationalism...
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:40 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: People KNOW that the terrorists were mostly Saudi Arabian and were a terrorist organisation. People KNOW the "war on terror" is a farce.
Does it make us hate the "east"??? No Ciko.
However....we know the "east" hates us....it certainly doesn't help anything... |
how can you say " east hate us" ? ...how can you generalise and if you think so you have no right to say anything against if any eastern say " west hate east" because you just did the same..
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:42 pm |
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Quoting ciko: how can you say " east hate us" ? ...how can you generalise and if you think so you have no right to say anything against if any eastern say " west hate east" because you just did the same.. |
OK apologies - but I GENUINELY have NEVER met anyone from the east who can say anything nice about the "west" other then our movies and music! (Of course, some countries hate those too...thinking they are evil!).
I can only judge by the people I have met here and in my country 
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:47 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting AEnigma III: People KNOW that the terrorists were mostly Saudi Arabian and were a terrorist organisation. People KNOW the "war on terror" is a farce.
Does it make us hate the "east"??? No Ciko.
However....we know the "east" hates us....it certainly doesn't help anything... |
how can you say " east hate us" ? ...how can you generalise and if you think so you have no right to say anything against if any eastern say " west hate east" because you just did the same.. |
I think it is very easy to feel like we are hated here in the West. 9/11 and 7/7 happened to us...so I think it is obvious why we feel that way. We are hated in our own countries by people who come here to escape their country because of horrible conditions. Really, I am trying to understand, how can you not see why we feel this way?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:48 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: I think it is very easy to feel like we are hated here in the West. 9/11 and 7/7 happened to us...so I think it is obvious why we feel that way. We are hated in our own countries by people who come here to escape there country because of horrible conditions. Really, I am trying to understand, how can you not see why we feel this way? |
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:49 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: how can you say " east hate us" ? ...how can you generalise and if you think so you have no right to say anything against if any eastern say " west hate east" because you just did the same.. |
OK apologise - but I GENUINELY have NEVER met anyone from the east who can say anything nice about the "west" other then our movies and music! (Of course, some countries hate those too...thinking they are evil!).
I can only judge by the people I have met here and in my country |
Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:50 pm |
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I choose to remember the good that happened on that day.......
The main vision that sticks in my head to this day is how people banded together to do what they could to help....it was plain to see in Manhattan where volunteers risked their own lives going into those buildings….with many of them never coming back out.
But it wasn’t just in Manhattan, it was all over America, people were taking action doing other things. I work at a blood bank and I will never, ever forget the thousands of people lined up around our building that day, waiting hours and hours and hours to donate a pint of blood..…for them, that was the one thing they thought they could do to help. We did not close our doors all night. It was incredible.
To me, that is the true tribute to that day and a true testament of the good in people. At work, every year on 9/11, we have a moment of silence and every year, we have a larger than usual turn out of blood donors honoring those that were lost on 9/11 and those who are lost in other events around the world every day.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:50 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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Unfortunately Turkish principles on this do not extend to refusing money from USA....
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:53 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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Unfortunately Turkish principles on this do not extend to refusing money from USA.... |
i meant Turkish people but it seems you are determined not to see what i mean..so..have a good night Aenigma.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:54 pm |
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Quoting ciko: i meant Turkish people but it seems you are determined not to see what i mean..so..have a good night Aenigma. |
Saying goodnight is not a good way to debate  ! I DO see what you mean, but if you blame us for actions of our governments, is it not fair to blame YOU for actions of YOUR government?
Turks have made A LOT of money from supplies to US soldiers. How do you feel about that?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:55 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: how can you say " east hate us" ? ...how can you generalise and if you think so you have no right to say anything against if any eastern say " west hate east" because you just did the same.. |
OK apologise - but I GENUINELY have NEVER met anyone from the east who can say anything nice about the "west" other then our movies and music! (Of course, some countries hate those too...thinking they are evil!).
I can only judge by the people I have met here and in my country |
Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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It is easy to forget the good things that the USA does in the world. It is funny how the evil deeds of a few years can erase so much good. We are not evil people and to say that people hate the US is just a bunch of crap...they still come her in droves from everywhere in the world and are quite happy to take our money!!
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 09:57 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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Unfortunately Turkish principles on this do not extend to refusing money from USA.... |
Bless your tea loving heart, Aenigma!!
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:02 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: i meant Turkish people but it seems you are determined not to see what i mean..so..have a good night Aenigma. |
Saying goodnight is not a good way to debate ! I DO see what you mean, but if you blame us for actions of our governments, is it not fair to blame YOU for actions of YOUR government?
Turks have made A LOT of money from supplies to US soldiers. How do you feel about that? |
you can blame my goverment as much as you want i dont like them to get money from USA..and of course nobody likes..and i dont blame you or people aenigma..we just blame Bush's goverment for this war..clear?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:02 pm |
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Quoting ciko:
Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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It is very narrow minded of you to hate the USA for the actions of an unpopular government! Disliking a government is one thing but lumping us all into one big pot and saying you hate us??? That's just ridiculous. How is it possible to hate an entire country and hate people you don't know?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:03 pm |
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Quoting ciko: ..we just blame Bush's goverment for this war..clear? |
I wish that were true
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:04 pm |
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Quoting ciko: ..and of course nobody likes.. |
You alone are the spokesman of all Turks?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:05 pm |
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i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:06 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting ciko: ..we just blame Bush's goverment for this war..clear? |
I wish that were true |
according to researches 75 % of turkish used to like Clinton and his politics.. is it enough to say it is true?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:06 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III:
However....we know the "east" hates us....it certainly doesn't help anything... |
i didnt know you were aware of it
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:07 pm |
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Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Hell no it's not difficult to understand...I live with it! But you broadly stated you hate the USA...not just the government. And you spoke for most Turks. Funny how many Turkish boys want to come to the US!
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:10 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Hell no it's not difficult to understand...I live with it! But you broadly stated you hate the USA...not just the government. And you spoke for most Turks. Funny how many Turkish boys want to come to the US! |
then i am correcting..we hate Bush..not USA. and be sure most Turkish boys do not die to live in your BEAUTIFUL country.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:10 pm |
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Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Ciko - we are giving you honest answers to your questions. That is all. It seems to me that you don't like the answers..but you asked in the beginning of this thread about east/west issues. It isn't personal. I know YOU didn't say the YOU hate the west or the USA. But you asked a general question about how westerners feel about easterners with reference to 9/11 and 9/7. I am confused...do you want to know or not?
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:11 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Hell no it's not difficult to understand...I live with it! But you broadly stated you hate the USA...not just the government. And you spoke for most Turks. Funny how many Turkish boys want to come to the US! |
I don't think he said HE hated the US but many people in Turkey did...I don't think we can say Ciko does or does not.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:13 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Ciko - we are giving you honest answers to your questions. That is all. It seems to me that you don't like the answers..but you asked in the beginning of this thread about east/west issues. It isn't personal. I know YOU didn't say the YOU hate the west or the USA. But you asked a general question about how westerners feel about easterners with reference to 9/11 and 9/7. I am confused...do you want to know or not? |
yes i want to know but suddenly people here started to defende their countries as if i swore at western..i only wanted to know masses' reactions to governments..because as far as i know there will be elections in USA and UK next year..but God ..what a big mistake i made..anyway..i dont wonder anymore.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:15 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Ciko - we are giving you honest answers to your questions. That is all. It seems to me that you don't like the answers..but you asked in the beginning of this thread about east/west issues. It isn't personal. I know YOU didn't say the YOU hate the west or the USA. But you asked a general question about how westerners feel about easterners with reference to 9/11 and 9/7. I am confused...do you want to know or not? |
yes i want to know but suddenly people here started to defende their countries as if i swore at western..i only wanted to know masses' reactions to governments..because as far as i know there will be elections in USA and UK next year..but God ..what a big mistake i made..anyway..i dont wonder anymore. |
OH Ciko...it wasn't a mistake...I appreciate that you took the time to ask your questions. Not many people think to ask, they just assume we all feel the same way. Thanks.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:20 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Hell no it's not difficult to understand...I live with it! But you broadly stated you hate the USA...not just the government. And you spoke for most Turks. Funny how many Turkish boys want to come to the US! |
I don't think he said HE hated the US but many people in Turkey did...I don't think we can say Ciko does or does not. |
I was using "you" as broadly as he used the "USA".
I get upset about this topic because I have a son who is in the Navy, out fighting this ridiculous war, a war that has turned the world against us, for a president who did not even win the popular vote!
I am scared for him everyday. My son has a wife and children at home..waiting for his return....it is a sensitive subject.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:23 pm |
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Girleegirl - I don't think most people in the world realize the heartache in most Americans over this. We want our soldiers home and safe. Most of all we want to put this behind us. It is a gapping wound for many of us. I hope your son is returned home safetly soon.
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:25 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Girleegirl - I don't think most people in the world realize the heartache in most Americans over this. We want our soldiers home and safe. Most of all most of us want to put this behind us. It is a gapping wound for many of us. I hope your son is returned home safety soon. |
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:29 pm |
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OK, here is my OPINION:
Forget East and west, to me they are only directions on a compass. You keep mention G.W. Bush but what about Osama bin laden? Bush is't just to blame here. Don't get me wrong I don't like the guy much either, but stop blaming one person for this chaos. Twin towers were hit, America got Saddam, he was executed, half of muslims not liking what happened to him, half of them happy, they made forces against one another making bombs etc (not just with one another)
USA in Iraq doesn't help matters I know but if anyone should take blame for this it's both sides. Whether we like it or not it's that way.
I'm not speak for EVERY person in England or Iraq or any other country but the west have been racist at points but again it doesn't help when some muslims do not like to "socialize" with westerns.
So again, BOTH SIDES!
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:31 pm |
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Every day in Iraq is there's 11 / 9 or 7 / 7
so we never forgot this dates
Who is responsible, whether in USA or London or in Iraq ,of course the responsible is terrorism and USA
so why the west hate east or east hate west, this saying unfair cause here innocent people killed and there too
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:36 pm |
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Quoting elham: Every day in Iraq is the 11 / 9 or 7 / 7
so we never miss this dates
Who is responsible, whether in America or London or in Iraq ,of course the responsible is terrorism and America
so why the west hate east or east hate west, this saying unfair cause here innocent people killed and there too |
I think we should give Elham final word
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 10:41 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting elham: Every day in Iraq is there's 11 / 9 or 7 / 7
so we never forgot this dates
Who is responsible, whether in USA or London or in Iraq ,of course the responsible is terrorism and USA
so why the west hate east or east hate west, this saying unfair cause here innocent people killed and there too |
I think we should give Elham final word |
may be this will remove all the hates between the east and west which i donot believe it
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:18 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting ciko:
Most people here lately hate only USA..not western and its culture..turkish used to like US before Iraq were..but as you can guess we have a common history with Iraq so you cannot expect people here to think good things about US until they go back to america. this is human nature..it is not about being western or eastern.it would be the same if any war like that happened in Canada ( for example)
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It is very narrow minded of you to hate the USA for the actions of an unpopular government! Disliking a government is one thing but lumping us all into one big pot and saying you hate us??? That's just ridiculous. How is it possible to hate an entire country and hate people you don't know? |
+1000 I have always asked to myself what do people mean by saying "hate USA"? what is in their minds as definition of USA? the Country itself? its President? its governmemet? or its people? coz most American's dont agree with Bush government so why many people from other countries hate 'Americans'? I feel this is not fair, hating or incriminating 'all' for the decisions made by only 'a few'
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:22 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Hell no it's not difficult to understand...I live with it! But you broadly stated you hate the USA...not just the government. And you spoke for most Turks. Funny how many Turkish boys want to come to the US! |
then i am correcting..we hate Bush..not USA. and be sure most Turkish boys do not die to live in your BEAUTIFUL country. |
peace
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14 Sep 2007 Fri 11:52 pm |
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Quoting ciko: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting ciko: i didnt know you were so sensitive about this..you showed me how open you are to be criticize..i am repeating!!!! people here hate George W Bush's goverment..is it so diffcult to understand it? |
Hell no it's not difficult to understand...I live with it! But you broadly stated you hate the USA...not just the government. And you spoke for most Turks. Funny how many Turkish boys want to come to the US! |
then i am correcting..we hate Bush..not USA. |
Well then we are in agreement about something! Cheers 
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:33 am |
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Haven't you heard??? There are no sweet girls from the West!! 
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:37 am |
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Quoting girleegirl:
Haven't you heard??? There are no sweet girls from the West!! |
no i havent 
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:38 am |
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You think your the only one who can start a fire here FF???
But you are the best
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:41 am |
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Quoting KeithL: You think your the only one who can start a fire here FF???
But you are the best |
that is
the best compliment i ever had
 thank you dear
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:46 am |
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see how good I am to you??
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 12:55 am |
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Quoting KeithL: see how good I am to you?? |
i dont deserve this
but you re kind
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 01:35 am |
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Quoting KeithL: I was thinking about this all week actually. Was very surprised there wasn't a mention of the 9/11 anniversary this week. I don't find it good or bad, just interesting... |
What date did 9/11 happen then 
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 04:29 pm |
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Oh Femme, I got all my best lessons from you. All this while I have just been sharpening my claws...and POUNCE!! hehehe
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 04:30 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: i see the sweet girls from the West finally have learned to speak up for themselves |
Oh please! 
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 04:40 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting femme_fatal: i see the sweet girls from the West finally have learned to speak up for themselves |
Oh please! |
I was rather enjoying being called sweet... 
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 05:54 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: I was rather enjoying being called sweet... |
Only people who don't know me call me "sweet"
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 06:34 pm |
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Quoting Laila01: OK, here is my OPINION:
Forget East and west, to me they are only directions on a compass. You keep mention G.W. Bush but what about Osama bin laden? Bush is't just to blame here. Don't get me wrong I don't like the guy much either, but stop blaming one person for this chaos. Twin towers were hit, America got Saddam, he was executed, half of muslims not liking what happened to him, half of them happy, they made forces against one another making bombs etc (not just with one another)
USA in Iraq doesn't help matters I know but if anyone should take blame for this it's both sides. Whether we like it or not it's that way.
I'm not speak for EVERY person in England or Iraq or any other country but the west have been racist at points but again it doesn't help when some muslims do not like to "socialize" with westerns.
So again, BOTH SIDES! |
+1000000000!!!
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