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informal thoughts on Turkish Class
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23 Sep 2007 Sun 09:16 pm |
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Quoting Chantal: He was a great translator and was very well able to explain things!! |
he was a hero to me 
the only turkish male with balls to speak of the dark sides of turkey
i just cant understand the patriotism of all of them. :S
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 03:35 am |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting Chantal: He was a great translator and was very well able to explain things!! |
he was a hero to me
the only turkish male with balls to speak of the dark sides of turkey
i just cant understand the patriotism of all of them. :S |
It is not that you can't understand Turks' patriotism, you have actually turned that matter into an obsession; you are pretty much stuck with it. This subject obviously starts you up because you seem to like tug-of-war games and you reckon you are always on the stronger side. After all how wrong can you be when you are so sure you have the right culture and the right values.
That's probably why every now and then you judge them, mock them and call them cowards using slang and provocative expressions.
You will probably continue having problems understanding Turks, Greeks, Bulgarians or all the others whom you have a chance to know. On your abacus, Bush and all the excellent things he has done to the humanity are nothing but a bead drawn to the left or right. For us to be even, we need to sacrifice Ataturk or some other Turkish leader. This way the abacus will look just and right.
As a matter of fact, much of your problem stems from that very same primitive abacus you are using. You should obviously neither judge nor appreciate a culture in such simple terms.
A culture, its language, its values and traditions form a perfect entity. It takes even college professors years to understand their mysteries. When you ridicule people's thoughts like that, you are actually ridiculing yourself. Guess why?
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 06:13 am |
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You go vineyards!  I felt patriotic in Turkey and I'm not even living there! In 'old' cultures there is a homogeniety that the U.S. can't touch (except the Native Americans) and groups that have clung to their country of origins culture. Turkish people have a lot to be proud of. I think it would be great to feel good about being where you are from, I certainly don't. As for this threads topic...Turkish class is a very helpful site. There do seem to be little cliques here. Overall the people here are very friendly and helpful, which is also my impression of Turkish people in general. My translation T-E skills have gotten much better by practicing on the posts. Unfortunately the other way E-T...COK ZOR!
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 06:48 am |
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Vineyards has the right to defend patriotism and femme has the right to criticize it. I don't understand though why vineyards feels the need to bash her personally in his post. Would that mean something about himself as a person? 
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 03:14 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Vineyards has the right to defend patriotism and femme has the right to criticize it. I don't understand though why vineyards feels the need to bash her personally in his post. Would that mean something about himself as a person? |
Don't see why Vineyards post amounts to a "bashing". I have seen many much worse.
On many ocassions TC members have been "bashed" quite viciously at times but not a word to the "basher".
One of my informal thoughts on TC "it is OK for some but not for others"! 
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 03:55 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Vineyards has the right to defend patriotism and femme has the right to criticize it. I don't understand though why vineyards feels the need to bash her personally in his post. Would that mean something about himself as a person? |
Catwoman, although I am not a believer I like this Islamic notion probably derived from the Quran itself: "If you are rich or mighty you are in a greater peril of sinning since you are capable of more malice than others. In the end, God only knows who is really right or who is really wrong."
As a moderator, you made a number of mistakes in the past. Those mistakes violated the freedoms of speech of a number of people. You knowingly deleted some of their messages and also your replies to those messages. You didn't have a right to do that. This site maybe yours and you may close it down any second you wish but you have no right to start a public forum and turn it into your own playhouse. If that is your intenetion, you should put a disclaimer notice and notify people that their messages can be deleted or modified arbitrarily. Who would post messages in your forums under those circumstances?
I expected you to apoligize on realizing your mistakes. You didn't do that and turned a deaf ear to people's complaints completely disregarding their protests against certain other members who openly bashed them. You don't have a right to complain about the current situation anymore.
Do you realize now how grave your mistake was?
Do you realize that we would not have to go through all these flaming circles if only you could act the way a moderator should.
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 04:23 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: You didn't do that and turned a deaf ear to people's complaints completely disregarding their/my protests against certain other members who openly bashed me/them. You don't have a right to complain about so called bashings people do to one another now. |
Can this sanctimonious, pompous post be coming from the same man who called me a "bitch" and a "slut" when I disagreed with him once?
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 04:32 pm |
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So, The Empire Strikes Back!
Let's put the record straight. You insulted me in a private message and when I complained, you said it was a private message. Then I sent you a private message and asked whether it would be OK if I called you "a bitch" or "a slut" because it was just a PM.
You also publicly accused me of sending you vile PM's in which I insulted you. Being in suspicion I found and posted the originals of those messages to prove that they did not contain any insulting words. Then you accused me of violating your privacy by posting messages sent to you in the public forum.
Now are we facing yet another lie Ms. Aenigma?
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 04:42 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: So, The Empire Strikes Back! |
Hahahaha! 
Always thought I was Jedi....
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 06:31 pm |
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My informal thought.....does anyone (myself included) actually pay any attention to the "language" portion of the site?
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 11:09 pm |
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i think patriotism is a thing with the help of which the wide mass is manipulated.
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