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informal thoughts on Turkish Class
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 11:09 pm |
i think patriotism is a thing with the help of which the wide mass is manipulated.
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 11:09 pm |
TC, with its true type font bigger than 15, is well suited to especially the hypermetropic!
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24 Sep 2007 Mon 11:18 pm |
Quoting pagliaccio: TC, with its true type font bigger than 15, is well suited to especially the hypermetropic! |
so?
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 12:09 am |
Everyone has a different view of certain concepts. For example, what is regarded as a religious requirement by some can be seen as an act of barbarism by others. There used to be people who sacrificed their lives with all the best intentions in sake of communism but to some others they were just a bunch of bastards whose heads had to be crushed.
If your understanding of patriotism is more in the lines of chauvenism then you probably see no difference at all between patriotism and nationalism either. This kind of a misconception is very much like my regarding a dentist as a torturer no matter how useful in reality a dentist is.
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 12:24 am |
Quoting vineyards: Everyone has a different view of certain concepts. For example, what is regarded as a religious requirement to some can be seen as an act of barbarism to others. There used to be people who sacrificed their lives with all the best intentions in sake of communism but to some others they were just a bunch of bastards whose heads had to be crushed.
If your understanding of patriotism is more in the lines of chauvenism then you probably see no difference at all between patriotism and nationalism either. This kind of a misconception is very much like my regarding a dentist as a torturer no matter how useful in reality a dentist is. |
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 01:22 am |
Hello Folks.
I'm back and I look forward to have some nice discussions with our fellow members. But be careful. You might get banned if you are using a language that is too argumentative or slang or implies a religious perspective. I'm sure we will be able to find a forum rule you are violating.
Just kidding. It's nice to be remembered. Cheers.
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 01:22 am |
Quoting vineyards: Everyone has a different view of certain concepts. For example, what is regarded as a religious requirement to some can be seen as an act of barbarism to others. There used to be people who sacrificed their lives with all the best intentions in sake of communism but to some others they were just a bunch of bastards whose heads had to be crushed.
If your understanding of patriotism is more in the lines of chauvenism then you probably see no difference at all between patriotism and nationalism either. This kind of a misconception is very much like my regarding a dentist as a torturer no matter how useful in reality a dentist is. |
I think this is well said . I just would like to add that a certain level of brainwashing by media and government does influence a person's ideas, wouldn't you agree?
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 06:34 am |
It is impossible to establish a complete control over all the aspects of life. It is in man's nature to have a desire to use opportunities. If you find an abandoned newspaper on the bus, you would like to read it. If you are a very rich person, you'd spend a poor worker's annual income on a dinner party and that would be perfectly normal to you.
No matter how much you complain of the way governments and media use the coercion they have; they will always be in place and running on their own natural paths.
When you study society in a wider context, you will notice how archaic it actually is. Just like myriad layers of sediments forming in a lake, the traces of bygone years are perpetually recorded in the muddy waters of society. If we could drill through all these sediment layers and reach the end of it, we would probably find a caveman there who is responsible for all that mud and blur.
Generation after generation people did their best to destroy the caveman by constantly improving all the aspects of society. Yet the caveman is still with us. We took the axe in his hand and gave him a-bombs to nuke tens of thousands of people in one go.
As a matter of fact, patriotism is very much like the love you have for your family. You love your country, and your identity. If there is love in your family chances are that there is love in you too. You open up your eyes to the beauties of this world then. Because you are a love child and you know what love is. Your parents loved each other and you learned from them. Similarly, if you love your country and feel that you can do whatever sacrifice to save it just like you would if your family were in danger, that will not do any harm to anyone. It will indeed make love prevail.
Here is the magic formula: love yourself, love your family and friends, love your country and love this world that we all live in.
I am in love with this world. I thank million times to the unknown creator for the oxygen it gave us, for the sun that heats and energizes us, for the abundant foods and all the other riches we are given.
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 02:40 pm |
Quoting erdinc: Hello Folks.
I'm back and I look forward to have some nice discussions with our fellow members. But be careful. You might get banned if you are using a language that is too argumentative or slang or implies a religious perspective. I'm sure we will be able to find a forum rule you are violating.
Just kidding. It's nice to be remembered. Cheers.
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Is that really you? Violating a forum rule? Never..
Welcome back!
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 02:47 pm |
Quoting teaschip1: Quoting erdinc: Hello Folks.
I'm back and I look forward to have some nice discussions with our fellow members. But be careful. You might get banned if you are using a language that is too argumentative or slang or implies a religious perspective. I'm sure we will be able to find a forum rule you are violating.
Just kidding. It's nice to be remembered. Cheers.
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Is that really you? Violating a forum rule, I'm not sure what you mean. No never, not me..
Welcome back! |
I wonder if you are still in London...
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25 Sep 2007 Tue 07:51 pm |
Quoting erdinc: Hello Folks.
I'm back and I look forward to have some nice discussions with our fellow members. But be careful. You might get banned if you are using a language that is too argumentative or slang or implies a religious perspective. I'm sure we will be able to find a forum rule you are violating.
Just kidding. It's nice to be remembered. Cheers.
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