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informal thoughts on Turkish Class
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:29 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting vineyards: If we are not here to find out who is right or wrong don't say you are wrong twice in your previous message. When I said you are wrong I wanted to accentuate this point. We shouldn't say you are wrong or right we should take the time and explain our own points instead. Your contradictions are plenty. |
I actually did explain my points, long-essays are not necessary for that.
I never said that "you are wrong", unlike you, even though I totally don't agree with you.
Vineyards, can we start using the same logic? |
Catwoman, being an electronic device designer and a professional programmer I feel, I am both very logical and quite good at different kinds of logic. Otherwise I would be bankrupt by now.
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:30 pm |
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Quoting vineyards:
Femme_fatal, you know so many slang words I am sure. I suggest that you shouldn't put them on display here. After all, the only way for us to learn about you is through your own words. I have a few Kazakh friends here who are Muslims, who are much more oriental than I am. None of them are as western as you are. Did you just drop your Kazakh identity dear and now are you ridiculing the ways of Turks. You should remember the situation in your country. They are fighting for the bread money. Your workers are fighting with foreign workers because in your country Kazakh workers are underpaid and mistreated. You are free to just not to care all that much about the Kazakh feelings about the West but if you want to deal with patriotism then there is always your own country going through graver problems. What is your problem with Turkey?
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as for words i use in posts i just quoted some easterners or some turks.
i think theres smth wrong with you, definitely.
not long ago you tried to hurt me with borat. it didnt work.
today you come up with kazakhs and kazakhstan to defend your sick imagination about me. it also doesnt work.
i speak up my mind wether you like it or not.
i dont care for patriotic national blah-blah things.
all i care is my viewpoints.
i really dont care for what you think about me. so, dont try hard criticising me. it doesnt work!
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:33 pm |
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You did not answer my question.
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:34 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Catwoman, being an electronic device designer and a professional programmer I feel, I am both very logical and quite good at different kinds of logic. |
Then you're not completely objective  . Professional skills however don't exclude illogical ideas or lack of objectivity in other areas of life.
Quoting vineyards: Otherwise I would be bankrupt by now. |
I'm glad you're doing good!
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:36 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: You did not answer my question. |
Vineyards, you are really using attack as a form of defense here. What does Kazakhstan have ANYTHING to do with femme's criticism of Turkey? 
What question did you ask - why is she criticizing Turkey and not Kazakhstan???
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:37 pm |
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vineyards
all you turkish boys including all other easterners (kazakhs too) speak the same like machines, you all are brought up by one unfailable system. and the worst thing you dont see it.
greeks are bad, very bad, its absolutely okey for turks to speak bad of greeks, but when greeks talk bad of turks its unacceptable! 
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:40 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: vineyards
all you turkish boys including all other easterners (kazakhs too) speak the same like machines, you all are brought up by one unfailable system. and the worst thing you dont see it.
greeks are bad, very bad, its absolutely okey for turks to speak bad of greeks, but when greeks talk bad of turks its unacceptable! |
thats for sure that... you didnt see lots of turks dancing with greeks in istanbul...
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:41 pm |
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Catwoman, what is the relation of Ataturk with Stalin and Hitler? Is he more akin to them than femme is to Kazakhstan?
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:42 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Catwoman, what is the relation of Ataturk with Stalin and Hitler? Is he more akin to them than femme is to Kazakhstan? |
Vineyards, can you STOP taking my words out of context!!!! 
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:44 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: vineyards
all you turkish boys including all other easterners (kazakhs too) speak the same like machines, you all are brought up by one unfailable system. and the worst thing you dont see it.
greeks are bad, very bad, its absolutely okey for turks to speak bad of greeks, but when greeks talk bad of turks its unacceptable! |
Femme you should really reset your prejudices. You are insulting all the Easterners including your own Kazakhs collectively now. Do you have a spine? Or are you a jelly fish?
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27 Sep 2007 Thu 08:49 pm |
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Quoting vineyards: Femme you should really reset your prejudices. You are insulting all the Easterners including your own Kazakhs collectively now. Do you have a spine? Or are you a jelly fish? |
So she's also not allowed to criticize Kazakhs now either? I thought she'd have the right to do that since she's from there...
Yes, I agree that she generalized all Turks and Greeks unfairly, but the point is that there are many Turks who still think the way she described - would you agree with that? (and I remember that you were often in conflict with some Turkish people because you were against such behavior).
I think that it's those who are so easily insulted that they can't even hold a conversation who should grow a spine as well.
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