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A Feminist Islamic Reform in Turkey
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1.       Roswitha
4132 posts
 04 Feb 2008 Mon 11:40 pm


It is no accident that Turkey is the place where the traditional sharia is being reconsidered. The process of modernizing Islam, which dates in Turkey from the late Ottoman Empire, has accelerated since the 1980s, when Turkish society began to open. Since then, a flourishing Muslim bourgeoisie has emerged, and members are wittily called "Islamic Calvinists" for their religiously inspired capitalism. This has given rise to a new social atmosphere: In modern Turkey, you see models parading down the catwalk in fancy headscarves and Koranic courses promoted by clowns handing out ice cream. Muslim politicians such as Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul repeatedly stress the need for change in the Islamic world.

These reform-minded Muslims are not secularists who want to do away with religion. On the contrary, they want to reinterpret Islam because they believe that its divinely ordained, humane and generous essence has been eclipsed by mortal man´s erroneous traditions and ideologies.

This is crucial because only such godly reformists have a chance to appeal to more traditional members of their faith. Since the 19th century, traditional Muslims have felt forced to choose between their faith and modernity — a dilemma that has been fueling a reactionary strain of radical Islam. The Islamic world needs an alternative — a path between godless modernity and anti-modern bigotry. With its revision of the traditional Islamic sources and with its rising Muslimhood that embraces democracy and open society, Turkey may just be opening the way. The West should be taking notice — and encouraging other Muslim countries to take inspiration from Turkey´s moderate course.
http://www.thewhitepath.com/archives/2006/07/a_feminist_islamic_reform_in_turkey.php


Posted by Mustafa Akyol at July 19, 2006

2.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 12:49 am

What they need are imams like AlphaF, everybody would enjoy the big surprise !

3.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:01 am

Quoting Roswitha:

"Women are imperfect in intellect and religion."
"The best of women are those who are like sheep."
"If a woman doesn't satisfy her husband's desires, she should choose herself a place in hell."
"If a husband's body is covered with pus and his wife licks it clean, she still wouldn't have paid her dues."
"Your prayer will be invalid if a donkey, black dog or a woman passes in front of you."


Whoever said this is either mentally ill or is/was one of the most hateful creatures ever.
If islam REALLY has these phrases in its dogma/religious text... than I'm at a loss of words to describe how hideous it is. I cannot imagine why any woman would follow such a religion.

4.       adonis
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:21 am

why the foreign people in this site are generally very interested in Turkey's internal problems? i wonder quite a lot. just like this topic, turban problem etc...

interesting...

5.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:29 am

Quoting adonis:

why the foreign people in this site are generally very interested in Turkey's internal problems? i wonder quite a lot. just like this topic, turban problem etc...

interesting...


don't you feel special?

6.       adonis
0 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:51 am

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting adonis:

why the foreign people in this site are generally very interested in Turkey's internal problems? i wonder quite a lot. just like this topic, turban problem etc...

interesting...


don't you feel special?



I absolutely don't feel special. Everybody should consider or mind their own motherland's internal problems. i feel that there's a tendency to make fun of and to gossip the problems of Turkey instead of living or having a holiday in here. these kind of tendencies can occur some misuderstandings.

this is my opinion...

7.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 02:52 am

Quoting adonis:

I absolutely don't feel special. Everybody should consider or mind their own motherland's internal problems. i feel that there's a tendency to make fun of and to gossip the problems of Turkey instead of living or having a holiday in here. these kind of tendencies can occur some misuderstandings.

this is my opinion...


I will wait until you begin to comment about the US or EU. lol

8.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:01 am

Quoting adonis:


Everybody should consider or mind their own motherland's internal problems. i feel that there's a tendency to make fun of and to gossip the problems of Turkey instead of living or having a holiday in here. these kind of tendencies can occur some misuderstandings.

this is my opinion...


I just wonder if this opinion only extends to foreigner's discussing things in the political arena or if you also believe foriegner's should mind thier own problems when it comes to things like earthquakes, floods and other disasters. Should we stay out of your business then too or is it ok for us to "help out"?

9.       catwoman
8933 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 03:05 am

No, no, no... it's completely FINE when we PRAISE Turkey, but not quite as ok to criticize, that's the issue.
Of course it only applies to people criticizing Turkey not Turks criticizing other countries - this is a very important point.

10.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 05 Feb 2008 Tue 09:22 am

Quoting adonis:

why the foreign people in this site are generally very interested in Turkey's internal problems? i wonder quite a lot. just like this topic, turban problem etc...

interesting...



Are you also inteested? Why dont you talk about their countries too?

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