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A Feminist Islamic Reform in Turkey
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:06 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting MrX67: women rights only problem of Turkey???there are planty female slavery samples on all world ,isn't it? |
mrx, be a man, and stand up for those women! dont poke at women in other countries! this is not a solution for those women in your country.
honor killings mostly 99% happen in muslim communities.
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:07 pm |
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Quoting AlphaF: Quoting adonis: why the foreign people in this site are generally very interested in Turkey's internal problems? i wonder quite a lot. just like this topic, turban problem etc...
interesting... |
Are you also inteested? Why dont you talk about their countries too? |
make him your student. you are the best at insulting other countries where millions of turks flee to have a better life.
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:09 pm |
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Quoting MrX67: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting MrX67: women rights only problem of Turkey???there are planty female slavery samples on all world ,isn't it? |
mrx, be a man, and stand up for those women! dont poke at women in other countries! this is not a solution for those women in your country.
honor killings mostly 99% happen in muslim communities.
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baby mrx cries 
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:11 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting MrX67: Quoting femme_fatal: Quoting MrX67: women rights only problem of Turkey???there are planty female slavery samples on all world ,isn't it? |
mrx, be a man, and stand up for those women! dont poke at women in other countries! this is not a solution for those women in your country.
honor killings mostly 99% happen in muslim communities.
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baby mrx cries |
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:23 pm |
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noone of us here for defending whats goin wrong in Turkey,and sure we all open for all critises,but when we making a critise have to be more objective and have to think it bigger by interrogate all world,not only particular nations or countries...
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:29 pm |
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Quoting Lapinkulta: why these stupid racist and anti-islamist women here anymore, catwoman and Femme_fatal?...stop attackting muslims and Turks here in TC.This site is for Turkish learners not for your discussions... |
I am not going to say anything about catwoman but I think she owns the site. But about femme_fatal.
We wanted her here man!!
I believe, she is a good counter-balance for Turkish racists.
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:31 pm |
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Quoting Lapinkulta: This site is for Turkish learners |
And again.... why are you here then? 
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:36 pm |
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to help people who need translation etc...
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:38 pm |
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oki doki  
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 01:49 pm |
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Quoting Lapinkulta: to help people who need translation etc... |
hes helping dudus
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05 Feb 2008 Tue 05:23 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: It is a very interesting article indeed. And also, because it is coming from that particular writer, it makes it a bit important and I think, it should be taken seriously!
He is right about all those rubbish Hadiths of course and the need for reform in islam itself.
But what is I dont agree in his writing is that he thinks, somehow, a 'real islam' is the answer. And the secularism is not. And he does not have courage to go into non democratic values of Islam itself!! He does not want to extend his reforms into into basic writings in Koran ie equality between women and men, all those kaffir things, hand choppings etc.
He is avoiding the real problems and trying to prove that islam (consequently sheria) and open democratic socity can exist. A kind of mild version of islam which could be an example for all extremist middle east regimes. (And it reminds me a USA plan for the middle east in which Turkey is assigned a mild version of Islam).
But the thing is Sheria and democracy cant live together.
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My question is simple...since Islam is the "word of God"...can it really be reformed? If you truely believe that the Koran came straight from God how can there be any hope of a kinder gentler Koran? In my opinion...Islam is not redeemable. It is immutable and unchangeable. You either love it....or leave it.
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