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1.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 06:34 pm

well, my teacher's actually going to get married. he's engaged now. his wife-to-be is in Turkey while he's here. we were talking awhile ago, and i saw a ring on his finger. i asked about it if he's already married or anything. blah blah blah.. but anyway, me and my friends just want to know how do they celebrate turkish muslim weddings? and do we have any slots for that wedding? in traditional christian wedding, we have this bridesmaids and flower girls. how is it in turkish? what do you call them? like.. whats the best position for us? *its a very good reason for me to go to Turkey. ha ha. and as i know, for boys you actually call it kirve i think?

thanks.

2.       hobnob
138 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 06:46 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

well, my teacher's actually going to get married. he's engaged now. his wife-to-be is in Turkey while he's here. we were talking awhile ago, and i saw a ring on his finger. i asked about it if he's already married or anything. blah blah blah.. but anyway, me and my friends just want to know how do they celebrate turkish muslim weddings? and do we have any slots for that wedding? in traditional christian wedding, we have this bridesmaids and flower girls. how is it in turkish? what do you call them? like.. whats the best position for us? *its a very good reason for me to go to Turkey. ha ha. and as i know, for boys you actually call it kirve i think?

thanks.



So they're going to get married in Turkey then? I can't tell you about traditional village weddings (but from what i've heard they are very different to city weddings). However, as I am getting married next year in a Turkish city (i'm English) I can tell you about this. In fact, nowadays modern Turkish weddings are becoming more and more like a typical English wedding- cake, confetti etc. They have the same kind of reception party as the English would just without the church bit obviously. Nowadays, the bride and groom call a councillor to come to the wedding venue (which is usually an outdoors restaurant or garden) who reads the vows in the same way a vicar would but you do this sitting down around a table and that person is in charge of all the legalities- signing the papers etc. It's common that at the wedding venue, an area is set out with rows of chairs like a church and the bride, groom, councillor and two witnesses do the vows etc at the front of the rows of chairs. Some people choose to sign the papers previous to the wedding and on the actual wedding day just focus on having fun like a reception party. Live music is also the norm. Plus, as many Turkish families are big, it is not common for the bride and groom to provide everyone with a sit down meal. For example, at our wedding we are expecting 350 people so we will just provide cake and soft drinks which is standard. As a gift, people always give gold. During the reception, the bride and groom stand while the guests walk past and attach some gold to the bride's clothes (and she wears a white sash where the gold can be attached). Bridesmaids, flower girls etc is rare as like I say the practice of an English church style wedding is relatively new. Hope this helps

3.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 06:56 pm

My Turkish wedding was a rather small affair. We had immediate family only and got married at the local marriage office. After that, we all walked across the street and had a nice meal at a lovely restaurant that had seaside tables. It was lovely and peaceful and not a big fancy wedding at all. My sister in law had about 500 people at her wedding and it lasted all night...there was enough food for the entire Turkish Army with music and dancing. She did not have flower girls, maids of honor ect....but there were 2 witnesses at both of our weddings. So my point is, the variation in Turkish weddings is as vast as they are here in the west. Maybe you can ask your friend what the wedding plans are and you will get a better idea.

4.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 06:56 pm

thanks for that. it surely helped. though i wonder, cant we have a role on his wedding? i was expecting maybe bridesmaids or anything, but i dont know what they call it (i`m begging for the right term). well, who knows.. i might be marrying with a turkish man someday. we're still young to know if we're the right one though. i wish by the time of my marriage, it will be a little classic since i am a foreigner. are you serious they only give golds? here in my country, as with the weddings people actually give like house & lots, house wears, appliances or anything for the new couple. and after the church wedding, they have this reception thing. i wonder how it takes for a turk couple to get married. i get confused since i've been to muslim weddings and christian ones.

5.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 06:59 pm

In Turkey, marriages are performed at the local marriage office...Religious ceremonies are not recognized. It takes about 15 or 20 minutes if you have a counselor that likes to talk alot. If not, you just sit, sign and BAM! You're married. Religious ceremonies in Turkey are purely symbolic.

6.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:02 pm

really? haha. so i wont be bored? cause with a blink of an eye, YEY! i`m married. haha. well here, it takes soooo much words. i wish to attend my teacher's wedding.

7.       justinetime
1018 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:03 pm

i had watched turkish weddings in youtube before... lol... (don't ask...) but it seems like, they don't have the bride's maid thing. The modern turkish wedding... well, they only had two witnesses. a guy and a girl. probably close friends of the groom and bride. And the traditional one... well... all i saw was the ceremony part... can't remember... check it out on youtube, and type turkish weddings...

8.       hobnob
138 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:04 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

thanks for that. it surely helped. though i wonder, cant we have a role on his wedding? i was expecting maybe bridesmaids or anything, but i dont know what they call it (i`m begging for the right term). well, who knows.. i might be marrying with a turkish man someday. we're still young to know if we're the right one though. i wish by the time of my marriage, it will be a little classic since i am a foreigner. are you serious they only give golds? here in my country, as with the weddings people actually give like house & lots, house wears, appliances or anything for the new couple. and after the church wedding, they have this reception thing. i wonder how it takes for a turk couple to get married. i get confused since i've been to muslim weddings and christian ones.



I am certainly planning to have bridesmaids at my wedding- my sister insists! I couldn't tell you what 'bridesmaid' means in Turkish though- maybe there is no translation?? They only give gold, yes. Sometimes a coin (if you don't have much money) and gold jewellery sets if you are close family. I personally think it's a really good idea- you're not expected to keep it and wear gold everyday for the rest of your life lol but gold always increases in value and you can sell it and get the cash . How long does it take? The time between engagement and marriage is short- normally only a few months. People think i'm crazy for planning a wedding a year in advance including my fiance!! As for the reception I was telling you about- it's normally an evening do from about 8pm to midnight.

9.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:06 pm

really. then maybe my turk husband have to make some changes. we'll be having the traditional one. haha.

10.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:15 pm

Quoting hobnob:

I am certainly planning to have bridesmaids at my wedding- my sister insists! I couldn't tell you what 'bridesmaid' means in Turkish though- maybe there is no translation?? They only give gold, yes. Sometimes a coin (if you don't have much money) and gold jewellery sets if you are close family. I personally think it's a really good idea- you're not expected to keep it and wear gold everyday for the rest of your life lol but gold always increases in value and you can sell it and get the cash . How long does it take? The time between engagement and marriage is short- normally only a few months. People think i'm crazy for planning a wedding a year in advance including my fiance!! As for the reception I was telling you about- it's normally an evening do from about 8pm to midnight.




i think i will die thinking about it as early as now. and it hurts that my teacher is going to marry. hahaha. btw, as for some turk people i know, before they get married -- they dont really go into this relationship kind of things, boyfriend and girlfriend thing. i wonder how they manage to let their marriage survive if parents pick for them. i remember my cousin getting married, her ceremony started 11 am. and around 2 pm i think? they went to the reception and ended around 12 midnight already.

11.       justinetime
1018 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:15 pm

how old are you? lol

12.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:18 pm

still 14.

13.       justinetime
1018 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:22 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

still 14.

gosh, and you're thinking about getting married already? no offense. I'm only 21, but when i was your age, i wasn't thinking about getting married... lol

14.       hobnob
138 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:23 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

Quoting hobnob:

I am certainly planning to have bridesmaids at my wedding- my sister insists! I couldn't tell you what 'bridesmaid' means in Turkish though- maybe there is no translation?? They only give gold, yes. Sometimes a coin (if you don't have much money) and gold jewellery sets if you are close family. I personally think it's a really good idea- you're not expected to keep it and wear gold everyday for the rest of your life lol but gold always increases in value and you can sell it and get the cash . How long does it take? The time between engagement and marriage is short- normally only a few months. People think i'm crazy for planning a wedding a year in advance including my fiance!! As for the reception I was telling you about- it's normally an evening do from about 8pm to midnight.




i think i will die thinking about it as early as now. and it hurts that my teacher is going to marry. hahaha. btw, as for some turk people i know, before they get married -- they dont really go into this relationship kind of things, boyfriend and girlfriend thing. i wonder how they manage to let their marriage survive if parents pick for them. i remember my cousin getting married, her ceremony started 11 am. and around 2 pm i think? they went to the reception and ended around 12 midnight already.



Again, we're talking about huge differences in wedding practice- some weddings can last a week or a month!! The same goes for parents choosing your husband or wife- differences between some eastern and western mentality. It's not practice and generally not acceptable for a girl to live with a boy before marriage. This seems crazy to me- I wouldn't marry a guy if I hadn't tested his domestic abilities first lol If you are really only 14 there's no harm in wondering about what weddings are like and having dreams about your wedding but just keep them dreams for now

15.       hobnob
138 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:25 pm

Quoting justinetime:

Quoting azizehannah:

still 14.

gosh, and you're thinking about getting married already? no offense. I'm only 21, but when i was your age, i wasn't thinking about getting married... lol



I wasn't thinking about marriage when I was 21!!

16.       justinetime
1018 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:27 pm

Quoting hobnob:

Quoting justinetime:

Quoting azizehannah:

still 14.

gosh, and you're thinking about getting married already? no offense. I'm only 21, but when i was your age, i wasn't thinking about getting married... lol



I wasn't thinking about marriage when I was 21!!

fair enough... lol... and what age are you now? lol... sorry. maybe i'm just a little bit high. i guess it's just how turkish guys make girls feel, that makes us think about marriage, no matter what age.

17.       hobnob
138 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:36 pm

I'm only 26... but if you'd asked me a few years ago when I plan to get married i'd say 30 or 35. You're right I think- the effect of the Turkish man!!

18.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:38 pm

Quoting justinetime:

Quoting azizehannah:

still 14.

gosh, and you're thinking about getting married already? no offense. I'm only 21, but when i was your age, i wasn't thinking about getting married... lol



well, not really. hahaha. we just talk about it some time.

19.       justinetime
1018 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:42 pm

Quoting hobnob:

I'm only 26... but if you'd asked me a few years ago when I plan to get married i'd say 30 or 35. You're right I think- the effect of the Turkish man!!

I wasn't planning on getting married before if u asked me...when i was about 14... or even younger, i had my life set to be on some sort of seminary or something like that. had no boyfriends. but then, college was a culture shock...then came the turkish man... lol....

20.       sonunda
5004 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 07:54 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

still 14.



You are joking,right?

21.       justinetime
1018 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 08:03 pm

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting azizehannah:

still 14.



You are joking,right?


no she's not... lol... she's in highschool i think... and studying in some sort of turkish community or something? not sure.... maybe a turkish school here in the philippines. again... not sure. but she's definitely 14.

22.       azizehannah
220 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 08:16 pm

haha. why should i kid?

23.       sonunda
5004 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 08:45 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

haha. why should i kid?



It's ok-I got confused!! (it must be old age!) I thought it was you talking about getting married! Phew! lol

24.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 08:53 pm

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting azizehannah:

haha. why should i kid?



It's ok-I got confused!! (it must be old age!) I thought it was you talking about getting married! Phew! lol



Yeah me too! But it is strange relaly, it must be the effect of a Turkish man Often I feel I am ready to get married, though I am only 20, but when I get to think of it, I know it is something psychological: I'm sick and tired of the insecurity and the 'un-continuing' life we lead now and I can't wait to have my university finished. I know we won't get married untill we are both graduated and have made a fair amount of money and get our life on track a bit. Whats the point in getting married if you're still a student and live in two different countries? Besides, there's so much ahead of us, no need to rush! So my longing for marriage is just mostly my looking forward for all the restless and stressful times for us to be in the past!

But 14? Marriage? At that age I probably was disgusted by the thought of a French kiss lol

25.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 08:59 pm

When I was 14 marriage hadn't even been invented yet! lol

26.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:02 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

When I was 14 marriage hadn't even been invented yet! lol



Yeah but that's no surprise, that is 13.999.986 years ago

27.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:03 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Elisabeth:

When I was 14 marriage hadn't even been invented yet! lol



Yeah but that's no surprise, that is 13.999.986 years ago



Exactly....I was still trying to figure out how to get rid of my tail!

28.       sonunda
5004 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:04 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

When I was 14 marriage hadn't even been invented yet! lol



I have a friend in Turkey who maried when he was 22 and his wife was 14. It actually makes me feel a little queasy- a bit like child abuse. She got pregnant at 15 and had her son at 16.The son is now 16 and she also now has a 2 year old.
My daughters at 23 and 25 have 10 year plans for their futures and as far as I know men don't even figure!

29.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:06 pm

Quoting sonunda:

I have a friend in Turkey who maried when he was 22 and his wife was 14. It actually makes me feel a little queasy- a bit like child abuse. She got pregnant at 15 and had her son at 16.The son is now 16 and she also now has a 2 year old.




Yes to me it feels like that too. 14 is not the age for a child to be in a sexual relationship. The fact I said 'for a child to be' is already enough.. There are obviously exceptions, but in general I really think it is not-done.

30.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:07 pm

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting Elisabeth:

When I was 14 marriage hadn't even been invented yet! lol



I have a friend in Turkey who maried when he was 22 and his wife was 14. It actually makes me feel a little queasy- a bit like child abuse. She got pregnant at 15 and had her son at 16.The son is now 16 and she also now has a 2 year old.



Funny how humans have not evolved much in 13.7 years. Marriage before 30 is just not very fun!

31.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:07 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

I was still trying to figure out how to get rid of my tail!



Such a shame, it looked so good on you

32.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:08 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Elisabeth:

I was still trying to figure out how to get rid of my tail!



Such a shame, it looked so good on you



Well, when I married my Turkish husband...the villagers made me get rid of it...something about bad luck...you know how superstitious they can be...

33.       sonunda
5004 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:15 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting Elisabeth:

I was still trying to figure out how to get rid of my tail!



Such a shame, it looked so good on you



Well, when I married my Turkish husband...the villagers made me get rid of it...something about bad luck...you know how superstitious they can be...



I suppose they didn't notice your webbed feet!

34.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:39 pm

Quoting hobnob:

So they're going to get married in Turkey then? I can't tell you about traditional village weddings (but from what i've heard they are very different to city weddings). However, as I am getting married next year in a Turkish city (i'm English) I can tell you about this. In fact, nowadays modern Turkish weddings are becoming more and more like a typical English wedding- cake, confetti etc. They have the same kind of reception party as the English would just without the church bit obviously. Nowadays, the bride and groom call a councillor to come to the wedding venue (which is usually an outdoors restaurant or garden) who reads the vows in the same way a vicar would but you do this sitting down around a table and that person is in charge of all the legalities- signing the papers etc. It's common that at the wedding venue, an area is set out with rows of chairs like a church and the bride, groom, councillor and two witnesses do the vows etc at the front of the rows of chairs. Some people choose to sign the papers previous to the wedding and on the actual wedding day just focus on having fun like a reception party. Live music is also the norm. Plus, as many Turkish families are big, it is not common for the bride and groom to provide everyone with a sit down meal. For example, at our wedding we are expecting 350 people so we will just provide cake and soft drinks which is standard. As a gift, people always give gold. During the reception, the bride and groom stand while the guests walk past and attach some gold to the bride's clothes (and she wears a white sash where the gold can be attached). Bridesmaids, flower girls etc is rare as like I say the practice of an English church style wedding is relatively new. Hope this helps


OMG, this kind of wedding ceremony is a bit shocking to me although I'm sure it's nice and fun... but Polish weddings last from Saturday evening till Sunday morning, there is always lots of very good food and drinks, including alcohol and gifts are usually very valuable...

35.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:47 pm

I've been to a number of Turkish weddings. There are the modern "Salon" weddings and the village traditional ones.
"Salon" weddings are much more streamlined events and more formal, seeing as places are rented.

Traditional Turkish wedding are fabulous and very long events.

There is usually a large ornate engagement party months before the wedding. A civil marriage takes place before the traditional one, but the couple don't live together until the "traditional marriage" takes place.

The actual traditional wedding event takes at least 3 days.

Day one the bride and her entourage goes to the grooms home to visit. On this event regular, but special garments are worn and a Turkish flag hoisted high over the grooms village to announce to all who pass by that a marriage is being held. Anyone can visit and join in the dancing and feasting. A lamb is sacrificed and butchered for the feast that being served to all who are there. A band is hired for the event and dances are going on all day and night. This goes on at the grooms place for several days.

Day two at the brides place a henna party is held for the bride, who wears a full length lavender gown with a short transparant red veil over her head. A tray with balls of henna holding candles is held over the brides head while they chant prayers. A henna dance is done for the bride and after the henna "dance" henna is put on the brides hand and a red glove is put over her hand to keep it in place. Everyone at the party gets henna to put on themselves. More food is served. This is a women only party and the women dance.

Day three

At this event the bride wears a white wedding dress with a red ribbon that is tied around her waist by her brother. The groom and his entourage go in a decorated car or horse back with streamers and chants to take the bride to the grooms village and their new home. Another lamb is sacrificed before they get to the home. Another larger feast is held and the bride and groom sit at a table and are announced to all that they are now married. People approach the bride and either give her gold which is pinned on her. Sometimes the bride has gold bangles up to her elbow, or pinned on her dress. Gold coins with loops are often given on red ribbons.

After the eating the couple are left alone in their new dwelling for three days to get to know each other. On the fourth day the bride goes home to kiss her parents hands and visit her family. The seventh day the parents of the bride and groom visit new couple at home for a somewhat formal tea.



36.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:48 pm

Quoting catwoman:

but Polish weddings last from Saturday evening till Sunday morning,



Admin, be prepared

37.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:51 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

but Polish weddings last from Saturday evening till Sunday morning,



Admin, be prepared


Did you dump me again?

38.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 09:53 pm

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S

39.       sonunda
5004 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:00 pm

What about the bit where the cars are decorated with underwear tied to the wing mirrors and everyone drives around in convoy honking their horns!

40.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:01 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Did you dump me again?



I thought a man could add a little spice

And then at least I get to enjoy a long wedding instead of our 2minute-Vegas one

41.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:03 pm

I don't like the part where they kiss hands. To me, it is like an official statement to tell the parents you had sex! At least, that is how I've always understood it: you don't get to talk about it, let alone have it, and then you get married, you have the wedding night and the next time you see the parents, they all know what you've been up to and you confirm it kissing their hands.

42.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:04 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



I would like an organized small wedding, but with traditional elements in it. But they can skip the henna part for me, and I wont kiss any hands! His parents won't allow me anyway. Even his grandfather refused!

43.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:06 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I don't like the part where they kiss hands. To me, it is like an official statement to tell the parents you had sex! At least, that is how I've always understood it: you don't get to talk about it, let alone have it, and then you get married, you have the wedding night and the next time you see the parents, they all know what you've been up to and you confirm it kissing their hands.


lol

Ama canim.... I would be proud to kiss your parents' hands the next day if we did have a traditional wedding... lol

44.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:08 pm

Quoting catwoman:

I would be proud to kiss your parents' hands the next day if we did have a traditional wedding... lol



There's nothing to kiss about yet A little less conversation a little more action please, after that we can see about that

45.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:11 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

There's nothing to kiss about yet A little less conversation a little more action please, after that we can see about that


You were not supposed to say this publicly!!! What will they think about my capabilities now? OMG... how could you do that!

46.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:14 pm

Quoting catwoman:

You were not supposed to say this publicly!!! What will they think about my capabilities now? OMG... how could you do that!



I wouldn't know about your capabilities as I haven't experienced them yet But hey, summerholiday is on our way, some hot sunshine does miracles for your mood

47.       lesluv
722 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 10:23 pm

i think it all sounds very romantic........mmmmm....sigh!!!

48.       hobnob
138 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 11:11 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



I would like an organized small wedding, but with traditional elements in it. But they can skip the henna part for me, and I wont kiss any hands! His parents won't allow me anyway. Even his grandfather refused!



I'm with you on this one. I don't want dirty henna hands for my wedding and you'll never catch me kissing anyones hands (except maybe the husbands' maybe)... his family also hate the hand kissing thing.

49.       Ebbyru
243 posts
 23 Jun 2008 Mon 11:23 pm

I've been to many turkish wedings, a few in Turkey and one in London. They have all been slightly different from one another but for me I would say they make it more interesting for everyone unlike english traditional weddings. It's not just the main family that are involved sometimes there have been over 300 people because of local friends etc and they all get involved. Plus the bride wears two different dresses, one for the henna and one for the begining and most of the wedding, (traditional white dress). When I get married I'll probably more likely to be in Turkey due to family, and at the end of the wedding you give your gift either money pinned on the bride's dress or jewellery for the bride and groom. Oh and occassionally there is a bit where you have a vase made out of clay I guess and women that are old enough to get married and close relatives each take a chance to dance with it then the last person throws it on the ground and there's usually money and sweets inside.
In Turkey they usually last for two days or round about then, you have music playig 'til round about 4am then just a few hours later it starts again, 'til quite late, when you are surrounded by so many people to me it makes it more magical, but that's me.

That's what I've seen when I've been to family turkish weddings

50.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:47 am

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.

51.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:49 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I don't like the part where they kiss hands. To me, it is like an official statement to tell the parents you had sex! At least, that is how I've always understood it: you don't get to talk about it, let alone have it, and then you get married, you have the wedding night and the next time you see the parents, they all know what you've been up to and you confirm it kissing their hands.



I see it as the parents seeing that the daughter is OK. The hand kissing has nothing to do with sex, it's just a traditional greeting for elders. Some don't like it, some do.

52.       Rocco Siffredi
60 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:00 am

kissing hands is a verification and announcement of having sex to the elder people? hahaha it's so funny.

53.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:02 am

Quoting alameda:

I see it as the parents seeing that the daughter is OK.



I'm sorry but how can they, after 3 days, see that the daughter is OK? And, why would they decide that AFTER the marriage, considering they probably already gave permission for one?

I don't know the real reason behind the hand-kissing, it is just my opinion that way. Turkish friends of mine are embarassed to go hand-kissing, because of what I said.

54.       alameda
3499 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:53 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting alameda:

I see it as the parents seeing that the daughter is OK.



I'm sorry but how can they, after 3 days, see that the daughter is OK? And, why would they decide that AFTER the marriage, considering they probably already gave permission for one?

I don't know the real reason behind the hand-kissing, it is just my opinion that way. Turkish friends of mine are embarassed to go hand-kissing, because of what I said.



People kiss elders hands all the time DK, as I said, it has absolutly nothing to do with sex. Probably your Turkish friends are embarassed to kiss elders hands because they know your attitude towards it. Granted, there are many Turks who are ashamed of their culture and want to be "Modern". There are also some who want to be humble and don't want their hands kissed.

I don't have any problem with hand kissing. I've kissed hands and had mine kissed, as well as refused having my hand kissed.

As for seeing the daughter, one who knows their child can read their expressions and get an idea of the girl is happy or sad from looking at her.


55.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:55 am

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.


After all these traditional rituals, please dont forget to give the blood stained bed linen to the people waiting behind your bedroom door in order to go full monty on the issue and tell your kids proudly in the future that you had a proper traditional wedding.

56.       catwoman
8933 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 02:03 am

Quoting thehandsom:

After all these traditional rituals, please dont forget to give the blood stained bed linen to the people waiting behind your bedroom door in order to go full monty on the issue and tell your kids proudly in the future that you had a proper traditional wedding.


Right, how could we forget this part, people get killed when this is not fulfilled!

57.       geniuda
1070 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 02:54 am

Quoting thehandsom:


After all these traditional rituals, please dont forget to give the blood stained bed linen to the people waiting behind your bedroom door in order to go full monty on the issue and tell your kids proudly in the future that you had a proper traditional wedding.


Traditional or not...no way!!

58.       Rocco Siffredi
60 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:10 am

it seems a vast majority of female users in this site prefer this type of marriage becouse you wonder it. i hope y'all find good dudus from Turchia to apply this wed. (by the way dudu means parrot, as i read in a dictionary. it's very ridiculous and absurd to call your boyfriends as "dudu") quasi y'all making fun of them, but apparently men are superior than women whether you accept it or not. only stupid men wanna be dominated by the sly women. anyway, hope you'll be happy.

59.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:24 am

TURKISH WEDDING = DÜĞÜN
In Turkish wedding day, a Turkish tradition, bride wears gold coins,wedding rings,piece of jewelry,golden bracelets.
Maybe gets a new beautiful home and home furniture as a wedding gift...

60.       justinetime
1018 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 05:27 am

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting sonunda:

Quoting Elisabeth:

When I was 14 marriage hadn't even been invented yet! lol



I have a friend in Turkey who maried when he was 22 and his wife was 14. It actually makes me feel a little queasy- a bit like child abuse. She got pregnant at 15 and had her son at 16.The son is now 16 and she also now has a 2 year old.



Funny how humans have not evolved much in 13.7 years. Marriage before 30 is just not very fun!


my bf's mom got married when she was 15, and his dad was about 17 or 18. I told him that maybe they loved each other a lot to get married at a young age. He said no. It was arranged. He is 22 now, turning 23... and he thinks he's not so young to get married.

61.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 10:20 am

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

kissing hands is a verification and announcement of having sex to the elder people? hahaha it's so funny.



What do you know about Turkish weddings? You're Italian

62.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 11:49 am

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

kissing hands is a verification and announcement of having sex to the elder people? hahaha it's so funny.



What do you know about Turkish weddings? You're Italian



And your previous comment is just sick Rocco, not all men are pornstars you know!

And secondly, I never said that the idea behind hand-kissing is like that. Because we all know it is a tribute of 'respect'. But it is just a secon notion that comes to it when you first see the parents after your wedding night. I obviously didn't mention the blood-bez, but hey, why don't you give them a kiss and proudly show your a virgin (probably with some fake blood because we all know that it is the minority that bleeds .


Alameda: my friends didnt say such a thing because I think that way. They are scared to have sex, because it is such a tabu. They think it is something dirty, and something only the male can have pleasure from. My friends literal words were 'Babacım, seni ellerinden öpeyim, sikildim diye'. Ofcourse she said this laughing, but just so you know it is not just the 'bed westener' idea that kissing hands after your marriage can feel a bit uncomfy

63.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 11:53 am

Quoting thehandsom:

After all these traditional rituals, please dont forget to give the blood stained bed linen to the people waiting behind your bedroom door in order to go full monty on the issue and tell your kids proudly in the future that you had a proper traditional wedding.



A friend of mine told a story that she was preparing for her wedding and had packed her suitcase for the night she was gonna stay in a hotel with her newly wed husband after the wedding. All the time people were trying to open her bag and she got angry, because she was stressed and already had packed her overnightbag long time ago! After a while she heard the whispers of the women, to later discover in the bedroom they had put about 10 handmade cloths for her to proove her virginity They are still in her house to do the cleaning and she has never used them for anything else.

I think it is sort of sick though that your mom is making handmade cloths, knowing that her daughter is going to have sex The funny part is that they gave 10

64.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:12 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

They are scared to have sex, because it is such a tabu. They think it is something dirty, and something only the male can have pleasure from.



If it's a taboo then no wonder they think so, and probably that's why men benefit from it - they don't have to try to make their partners feel good, they just do their thing and that's all. Poor girls...

Quote:



I think it is sort of sick though that your mom is making handmade cloths, knowing that her daughter is going to have sex The funny part is that they gave 10



Perhaps that was in case the husband didn't succeed the first nine times lol

65.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:25 pm

I have a friend who is a gynecologist. She says most of her business comes from performing 'sewing up' operations on the bride-to-be in order for her to bleed on her wedding night and make the groom believe she was a virgin... HOW SICK

66.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:28 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

If it's a taboo then no wonder they think so, and probably that's why men benefit from it - they don't have to try to make their partners feel good, they just do their thing and that's all. Poor girls...



I think that is where the bleeding myth comes from!

Quoting Daydreamer:

Perhaps that was in case the husband didn't succeed the first nine times lol



lol

67.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:30 pm

Quoting hobnob:

I have a friend who is a gynecologist. She says most of her business comes from performing 'sewing up' operations on the bride-to-be in order for her to bleed on her wedding night and make the groom believe she was a virgin... HOW SICK



+1!

In the Netherlands they have come up with something new: a bleeding pill. You swallow it, and half an hour afte ryouve taken it, a redish fluid that looks like blood (but isn't) comes out. You have to be careful though to take it the right time

I think this is better than sewing up, because that surely must hurt. But still I am against the distribution of this pill: it will confirm this idiot myth.

68.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:37 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting hobnob:

I have a friend who is a gynecologist. She says most of her business comes from performing 'sewing up' operations on the bride-to-be in order for her to bleed on her wedding night and make the groom believe she was a virgin... HOW SICK



+1!

In the Netherlands they have come up with something new: a bleeding pill. You swallow it, and half an hour afte ryouve taken it, a redish fluid that looks like blood (but isn't) comes out. You have to be careful though to take it the right time

I think this is better than sewing up, because that surely must hurt. But still I am against the distribution of this pill: it will confirm this idiot myth.



Wow, didn't realise there was anything like that in the Netherlands. I'm shocked. The whole thing is ridiculous- like you say, it's a myth (I certainly don't know anyone who bled- and i've asked many people lol) and any guy who will only marry a virgin obviously isn't worth marrying anyway.

69.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:46 pm

Quoting hobnob:

Wow, didn't realise there was anything like that in the Netherlands. I'm shocked. The whole thing is ridiculous- like you say, it's a myth



Well it is not for the Dutch people itself, actually the number one medicine prescribed here is the anticonception pill and I know not even one girl above 17 who doesn't use it

İt is for the (muslim)foreigners community here and I think it has been invented partially after some honor killings but not sure about that.

Quoting hobnob:

(I certainly don't know anyone who bled- and i've asked many people lol) and any guy who will only marry a virgin obviously isn't worth marrying anyway.



Same here!! But my opinion on this is that, as long as you are comfortable and not pressured and willing, nothing wrong happens. I guess the blood-myth stems from times that too young girls were married to a much older man and were either forced in it or just not comfortable. I can imagine it must either hurt or bleed then.

I hope this blood-practice will fade away soon, I can say that my Turkish girlfriends in Turkey are more informed on this matter than the Turkish ones who grew up here though!!

70.       ciko
784 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:46 pm

if turkish girls had those pills i am sure there would be no virgin girl in turkey Really they do sex and everything naughty except intercourse... if you give them those pills their biggest problem will be solved

71.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:49 pm

Quoting ciko:

if turkish girls had those pills i am sure there would be no virgin girl in turkey Really they do sex and everything naughty except intercourse... if you give them those pills their biggest problem will be solved



Yes I heard about that too. Virginity to me has nothing to do with intercourse, but apparantly they think differently about that

72.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:55 pm

Quoting ciko:

if turkish girls had those pills i am sure there would be no virgin girl in turkey Really they do sex and everything naughty except intercourse... if you give them those pills their biggest problem will be solved



Yeh, as far as I know the pill that makes you bleed hasn't come to Turkey yet. OR, if it has, it isn't well known. I wonder if it's been conveniently hidden. Maybe the government's scared too many girls will become 'loose' and lose their religious beliefs. Wouldn't surprise me if that was happening.

At least the contraceptive pill's widely available. You can go to a pharmacy, ask for the pill without having to explain why you're not a virgin anymore. Breakthrough!!

73.       ciko
784 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:56 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting ciko:

if turkish girls had those pills i am sure there would be no virgin girl in turkey Really they do sex and everything naughty except intercourse... if you give them those pills their biggest problem will be solved



Yes I heard about that too. Virginity to me has nothing to do with intercourse, but apparantly they think differently about that



To be honest who think differently about that is turkish men .it is a patriarchal society and culture and who defines such values is just men..the role given to women is just to obey rules made by men like keeping virginity. sad but true.

74.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 12:59 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting ciko:

if turkish girls had those pills i am sure there would be no virgin girl in turkey Really they do sex and everything naughty except intercourse... if you give them those pills their biggest problem will be solved



Yes I heard about that too. Virginity to me has nothing to do with intercourse, but apparantly they think differently about that



To be honest who think differently about that is turkish men .it is a patriarchal society and culture and who defines such values is just men..the role given to women is just to obey rules made by men like keeping virginity. sad but true.



Trying to control someone else's body... it's disgusting

75.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:05 pm

Quoting hobnob:

At least the contraceptive pill's widely available. You can go to a pharmacy, ask for the pill without having to explain why you're not a virgin anymore. Breakthrough!!



Its available but I remember they looked at me really bad when I came to buy it! Maybe it is because I am a foreigner that they felt like I was easy or something.. I dont know, but it didnt look like they were hppy to give me!

And they put it in a bag with a baby upon it! I joked about it and said what an inappropriate bag it was, but they couldnt laugh

76.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:10 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting hobnob:

At least the contraceptive pill's widely available. You can go to a pharmacy, ask for the pill without having to explain why you're not a virgin anymore. Breakthrough!!



Its available but I remember they looked at me really bad when I came to buy it! Maybe it is because I am a foreigner that they felt like I was easy or something.. I dont know, but it didnt look like they were hppy to give me!

And they put it in a bag with a baby upon it! I joked about it and said what an inappropriate bag it was, but they couldnt laugh



I've got them a couple of times and never got any strange looks. They probably had a good gossip after i'd left though about the foreigner who has sex!! I normally get my boyfriend to get them for me. He never gets strange looks lol

77.       nutty amanda
1 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:29 pm

i got gold and money at my wedding got like 1300 lira plus gold

78.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 01:57 pm

I sincerely believe those bleeding pills and repair jobs are a 'good thing' overall!
My country's blood and hymen loving, virginity obsessed, half brain men very well deserve them.

79.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 02:15 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

But my opinion on this is that, as long as you are comfortable and not pressured and willing, nothing wrong happens. I guess the blood-myth stems from times that too young girls were married to a much older man and were either forced in it or just not comfortable. I can imagine it must either hurt or bleed then.



The 'blood myth' has nothing to do with 'rough sex'. It used to be the same myth in the west as well. It was assumed that if a girl was a virgin her hymen would be unbroken and she would therefore bleed the first time she had intercourse. This is rubbish of course as even strenuous physical exercise can cause this to happen in many - if not all - women. Maybe if an explanation is needed 'but I'm always at the gym darling' would be an acceptable one! lol

80.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 02:36 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

But my opinion on this is that, as long as you are comfortable and not pressured and willing, nothing wrong happens. I guess the blood-myth stems from times that too young girls were married to a much older man and were either forced in it or just not comfortable. I can imagine it must either hurt or bleed then.



The 'blood myth' has nothing to do with 'rough sex'. It used to be the same myth in the west as well. It was assumed that if a girl was a virgin her hymen would be unbroken and she would therefore bleed the first time she had intercourse. This is rubbish of course as even strenuous physical exercise can cause this to happen in many - if not all - women. Maybe if an explanation is needed 'but I'm always at the gym darling' would be an acceptable one! lol



But the point is that men don't take 'my hymen broke when I was ten' as a valid excuse. This means the woman isn't a virgin and she has been lying to the man

81.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 02:52 pm

I basically meant that the myth could have been 'confirmed' because of unwanted sex It is a fact that the female is more sensitive in that area when the body hasn't produced the fluids to make it a pleasant act

Now I will go back studying and Chantal must do the same Otherwise I will refuse to have my teabreak with her lol

82.       lady in red
6947 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:02 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I basically meant that the myth could have been 'confirmed' because of unwanted sex It is a fact that the female is more sensitive in that area when the body hasn't produced the fluids to make it a pleasant act

Now I will go back studying and Chantal must do the same Otherwise I will refuse to have my teabreak with her lol



True! True! I have now agreed to go through Chantal's word list with her :-S so I hope I can join you for tea-break!!

83.       tuppelitah
335 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:43 pm

Quoting azizehannah:

thanks for that. it surely helped. though i wonder, cant we have a role on his wedding? i was expecting maybe bridesmaids or anything, but i dont know what they call it (i`m begging for the right term). well, who knows.. i might be marrying with a turkish man someday. we're still young to know if we're the right one though. i wish by the time of my marriage, it will be a little classic since i am a foreigner. are you serious they only give golds? here in my country, as with the weddings people actually give like house & lots, house wears, appliances or anything for the new couple. and after the church wedding, they have this reception thing. i wonder how it takes for a turk couple to get married. i get confused since i've been to muslim weddings and christian ones.


bridesmaid...nedime

84.       sonunda
5004 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 03:55 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Deli_kizin:

I basically meant that the myth could have been 'confirmed' because of unwanted sex It is a fact that the female is more sensitive in that area when the body hasn't produced the fluids to make it a pleasant act

Now I will go back studying and Chantal must do the same Otherwise I will refuse to have my teabreak with her lol



True! True! I have now agreed to go through Chantal's word list with her :-S so I hope I can join you for tea-break!!



I've got jaffa cakes but all this graphic talk is putting me off!

85.       Rocco Siffredi
60 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 04:07 pm

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

kissing hands is a verification and announcement of having sex to the elder people? hahaha it's so funny.



What do you know about Turkish weddings? You're Italian



what do you know about English weddings? you are a simple brit. tell us your wedding ceremony. we all want to listen you. grazie.

86.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 04:08 pm

Quoting lady in red:

so I hope I can join you for tea-break!!



Sure But I changed my tea for beer! Hope that's okay with you

87.       mltm
3690 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:11 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

But my opinion on this is that, as long as you are comfortable and not pressured and willing, nothing wrong happens. I guess the blood-myth stems from times that too young girls were married to a much older man and were either forced in it or just not comfortable. I can imagine it must either hurt or bleed then.


It's a myth that every virgin has to have a hymen, or bleeding must occur, but bleeding depends on the type of the hymen, sometimes bleeding really occurs when it's broken.
I don't know amybe I got you wrong, and you're saying the same thing???

88.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:15 pm

Quoting mltm:

It's a myth that every virgin has to have a hymen, or bleeding must occur, but bleeding depends on the type of the hymen, sometimes bleeding really occurs when it's broken.
I don't know amybe I got you wrong, and you're saying the same thing???




Yes Not every virgin has a hymen, and even if she has one, it doesnt necessarily have to bleed.

I was saying that eventhough it is a myth %100, I think that the confirmation of this myth comes from old times: if a young girl has to perform sex with an older man, unwantingly, the chance that she bleeds is higher than when she is ready for it and feels like it.


I personally haven't heard of any virgin that bled yet, and I tend to think that staying a virgin until you're married is one of the biggest mistakes you can make.

89.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:15 pm

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.



Somebody forgot to tell my husband about this!

90.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:17 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.



Somebody forgot to tell my husband about this!



lol What about the cooking and cleaning too?

91.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:22 pm

I was totally ripped off by my husband...when I get home, I am going to ask him were my house with all the furnishings is!

92.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:23 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.



Somebody forgot to tell my husband about this!



lol What about the cooking and cleaning too?



This is only true for grooms that come from a wealthy family. It's not the norm I don't think

93.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:29 pm

Quoting hobnob:

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.



You're not helping hobnob....I got my husband on the phone immediately and demanded my house and furniture!

Somebody forgot to tell my husband about this!



lol What about the cooking and cleaning too?



This is only true for grooms that come from a wealthy family. It's not the norm I don't think

94.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:34 pm

used or new? I don't want used furniture, rugs and dishes.

95.       sonunda
5004 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 08:45 pm

and I'll just have a groom from a wealthy family please. lol

96.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 09:21 pm

and what if you don't like the furniture he has picked out.

97.       hobnob
138 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 09:41 pm

Quoting sonunda:

and I'll just have a groom from a wealthy family please. lol



did I say something funny? lol

98.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 09:44 pm

Well if that includes cooking and cleaning for me..a wealthy family will do. Just as long as the mother n law minds her own business.

99.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 10:09 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.



Somebody forgot to tell my husband about this!


Calm down bed amerikan!!
Present "a home fully furnished with everything" for the bride is as mytical as virginity of the brides..

100.       teaschip
3870 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 10:14 pm

How disappointing to hear.

101.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 10:25 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Quoting alameda:

Quoting catwoman:

Alameda, thanks for the description, it was very interesting. However.... I'd never want such a traditional wedding myself, in fact, it would be pain to even participate in it... I think. :-S



Well catwoman, I don't think anyone will force you to attend a traditional Turkish wedding.

I forgot to mention that it is also tradtional forthe groom to present the bride with a home fully furnished with "everything". That is: all the dishes, couches, carpets...everything.



Somebody forgot to tell my husband about this!


Calm down bed amerikan!!
Present "a home fully furnished with everything" for the bride is as mytical as virginity of the brides..



Well, then, I guess neither one of us got what we were supposed to!!!

102.       lesluv
722 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 10:46 pm

hee hee very funny thread.... and rather informative too

103.       geniuda
1070 posts
 24 Jun 2008 Tue 11:45 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:


Well, then, I guess neither one of us got what we were supposed to!!!


then you have very good reason to annul your marriage Lis! lol lol lol

104.       Ebbyru
243 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 12:40 am

my kuzen that's getting married next month is very lucky she's having a house built for her. My uncle got maried last year and he got him and he's bride a home and got everything for them. furniture, washing machine etc etc and my uncle - dad's brother isn't wealthy.

105.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 09:12 pm

In a traditional Turkish wedding, in fact even very minimally traditional wedding, the groom must make a very hefty investment in the marriage.

There is none of this, "I love you, let's get married" type of activity. If a man wants to marry a woman, he is expected to show some sort of real bread and butter commitment in the form of dowry. He has to present her with gifts, get her father's permission, his parents permission. He has to supply a home and furnishings.

When they are married drums are pounded all over to announce to all they are married to what can literally be thousands of people.

At the end of this, he KNOWS he is married and has made a real commitment. His honor, his family's honor are very invested in making the marriage work.

When a Turkish man marries a Western woman, there is no such ritual to impress on him the extent of the commitment he has entered in. In fact I think exactly what the whole thing means is somewhat confusing to both the bride and groom as to exactly what they have committed themselves to. I wonder if this could be at the root of some of the Western/Turkish marital problems we see here.

106.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 09:36 pm

Quoting alameda:


When a Turkish man marries a Western woman, there is no such ritual to impress on him the extent of the commitment he has entered in. In fact I think exactly what the whole thing means is somewhat confusing to both the bride and groom as to exactly what they have committed themselves to. I wonder if this could be at the root of some of the Western/Turkish marital problems we see here.


Isn't a misunderstanding of expectations the root of all marital problems???

107.       alameda
3499 posts
 25 Jun 2008 Wed 10:16 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

.......Isn't a misunderstanding of expectations the root of all marital problems???



That's what I've heard. If we only knew what each other really expected and could deliver most problems would be over.

108.       lady in red
6947 posts
 28 Jun 2008 Sat 03:54 pm

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

kissing hands is a verification and announcement of having sex to the elder people? hahaha it's so funny.



What do you know about Turkish weddings? You're Italian



what do you know about English weddings? you are a simple brit. tell us your wedding ceremony. we all want to listen you. grazie.



Oh sorry - only just saw your post but then I wasn't expecting a reply! Pretty inane comment though - and, anyway, who said I was married??

109.       Rocco Siffredi
60 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 01:31 am

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

Quoting lady in red:

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

kissing hands is a verification and announcement of having sex to the elder people? hahaha it's so funny.



What do you know about Turkish weddings? You're Italian



what do you know about English weddings? you are a simple brit. tell us your wedding ceremony. we all want to listen you. grazie.



Oh sorry - only just saw your post but then I wasn't expecting a reply! Pretty inane comment though - and, anyway, who said I was married??



if you find my comment is pretty inane, why did you send me a message and saying "Hi" to me? i really don't care about you. grazie.

110.       catwoman
8933 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 02:05 am

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

if you find my comment is pretty inane, why did you send me a message and saying "Hi" to me? i really don't care about you. grazie.


Maybe she liked your pictures and thought 'he writes inane posts, I suspect it'll be easy to deal with him'? Don't you see it? She said she's not married, then wrote you a 'Hi' message, now she's fooling around here with you... Just an idea...

111.       lady in red
6947 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 08:01 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

if you find my comment is pretty inane, why did you send me a message and saying 'Hi' to me? i really don't care about you. grazie.


Maybe she liked your pictures and thought 'he writes inane posts, I suspect it'll be easy to deal with him'? Don't you see it? She said she's not married, then wrote you a 'Hi' message, now she's fooling around here with you... Just an idea...



112.       Ebbyru
243 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 08:14 pm

my dad's brother isn't wealthy at all and yet he did the entire house, furniture, etc etc. It depends on the family I guess

113.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 29 Jun 2008 Sun 09:24 pm

Quoting Ebbyru:

my dad's brother isn't wealthy at all and yet he did the entire house, furniture, etc etc. It depends on the family I guess



I'm not wealthy or Turkish and, whilst I didn't buy the house for them, I too furnished the entire house (like your uncle) for my daughter and her husband. Her husband's parents died within 6 months of each other when he was 17, so I look after him too

I think parents generally try to do as much as they can for their children, one way or another.

114.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 08:54 pm

in egypt the actual marriage ceremony is really short the bride and groom go to a mosque (if they are muslims NO DUH!!)and they signa ll the legal papers and blah balh balh and most mosques have gardens they have like a huge table set with small pieces of cakes for everyone and stuff but then..after any period of time mostly couple of months (until they gey the wedding preperations done)they have a huge wedding anywhere they want mostly in a hotel but could be in a garden or on the beach......and the wedding mostly starts at like 7 8 and stays till like 3 ,4 am and most weddings have 2 parts this like arabian nights part with ppl on drums and dancing with sword and sometimes they dress the bride and groom up like in that red thing they used to wear on their heads long ago (i dont know what its called)and they give the groom like this stick and he dances with it old style with the bride(of course everything with the white wdding dress and the tuxedo)and then the second part is the more modern mostly they get a dj and richer ppl get real famous singers along with the DJ and everybody dances and stuff!!when it comes to the food egyptian ppl have huge families like up to 300 ppl may come so they have this HUGE buffet and everybody just helps themselves.Now about the gifts tehy usually give b4 the wedding its mostly money which actually depends on how rich u are it could range from (500-10000 pounds)and u give them smthg they could use in their life like appliances or cameras or travel tickets...etc and after the wedding u return home and sleep like a dog!!!!lol!! i love hearing about weddings froma ll around the world1!!

115.       doudi94
845 posts
 30 Jul 2008 Wed 08:59 pm

oh yeah and one night b4 the wedding all the woman go to the bride´s house and they have like a henna party!! FUN!!

116.       A.F.Hussein
6 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 04:00 pm

I want ask only one question. I´m an Egyption man. When I got married with Turkish woman, I´ll got legal residence permit in Turkey due to Turkish laws?

 

Pleased so much for any help.

117.       catwoman
8933 posts
 21 Oct 2008 Tue 06:06 pm

 

Quoting A.F.Hussein

I want ask only one question. I´m an Egyption man. When I got married with Turkish woman, I´ll got legal residence permit in Turkey due to Turkish laws?

 

Pleased so much for any help.

 

Your question has been answered here.

118.       Lane
36 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:51 pm

I thýnk the groom should take care of the house and full furnýture and everything needed for home. Even I would want to say it is a must{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

119.       Merih
933 posts
 22 Oct 2008 Wed 06:59 pm

 

Quoting Lane

I thýnk the groom should take care of the house and full furnýture and everything needed for home. Even I would want to say it is a must{#lang_emotions_rolleyes}

 

 According to the Turkish customs (as far as I know)

It of course depends on the arrangement,  it is not a must to buy a house for any party.

 

The grooms´ side is responsible for all the white goods, electronics, the sofa set, dining set..

The brides´ side is responsible for bedroom set,  cookware, cutlery. glassware, dinner sets, carpets, curtains and accessories, towels, bathrobes.

120.       A.F.Hussein
6 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:56 am

 

Quoting catwoman

Your question has been answered here.

 

 Thx

121.       caliptrix
3055 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 01:53 am

 

Quoting Merih

 According to the Turkish customs (as far as I know)

It of course depends on the arrangement,  it is not a must to buy a house for any party.

 

The grooms´ side is responsible for all the white goods, electronics, the sofa set, dining set..

The brides´ side is responsible for bedroom set,  cookware, cutlery. glassware, dinner sets, carpets, curtains and accessories, towels, bathrobes.

 

This may change due to the region

122.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 02:00 am

 

Quoting caliptrix

This may change due to the region

 

 And according to the jobs man and woman have Or according to how ´modern´ they are.

 

I vote for sharing all the costs and picking all the furniture together And a no no for involvement or too much financial aid by parents!!!

123.       Lane
36 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 12:09 pm

Well we chose everything what s important together but the ones who were paying varied.

 

And about resorts - completely agree - a big risk starting anything. Anyway, after what I see or read about resorts I wouldnt even look to a resort worker.

124.       Trudy
7887 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 05:46 pm

 

Quoting Lane

I wouldnt even look to a resort worker.

 

 Not important, they will look at you....

125.       baybars
30 posts
 23 Oct 2008 Thu 06:23 pm

 ´Bridesmaid´ means "nedime" in Turkish. But there is no nedime in traditional Turkish weddings. 

Quoting hobnob

Quoting azizehannah:

thanks for that. it surely helped. though i wonder, cant we have a role on his wedding? i was expecting maybe bridesmaids or anything, but i dont know what they call it (i`m begging for the right term). well, who knows.. i might be marrying with a turkish man someday. we´re still young to know if we´re the right one though. i wish by the time of my marriage, it will be a little classic since i am a foreigner. are you serious they only give golds? here in my country, as with the weddings people actually give like house & lots, house wears, appliances or anything for the new couple. and after the church wedding, they have this reception thing. i wonder how it takes for a turk couple to get married. i get confused since i´ve been to muslim weddings and christian ones.

I am certainly planning to have bridesmaids at my wedding- my sister insists! I couldn´t tell you what ´bridesmaid´ means in Turkish though- maybe there is no translation?? They only give gold, yes. Sometimes a coin (if you don´t have much money) and gold jewellery sets if you are close family. I personally think it´s a really good idea- you´re not expected to keep it and wear gold everyday for the rest of your life lol but gold always increases in value and you can sell it and get the cash . How long does it take? The time between engagement and marriage is short- normally only a few months. People think i´m crazy for planning a wedding a year in advance including my fiance!! As for the reception I was telling you about- it´s normally an evening do from about 8pm to midnight.

 

 

126.       Irishclove
111 posts
 20 Nov 2008 Thu 09:53 pm

I had my wedding in Turkey last year.  The actual marriage was done at the city counsil and it took less then 15 minutes.  However, turkish people do like to celebrate.  it is customory to have some type of reception.  Most turkish do not really have much of a conception of invitation even though they send one.  if I get an invitation and I tell my girlfriend who happens to know the couple she might also show up.  We invitated about 100 people I did not want anything big and end up with about three hundred.  you do not have to feed everybody just make sure you have a huge cake to accomodate more than just the people invitated and drinks.

The good part about it is that you can have an absolutely gorgeous fress made for almost nothing in no more than a week.  I don´t think they have brides maides, at least I did not, your brides maides will automatically be the sisters, cousing, close female relative.  Even if you do not want them they will still do so.  Oh yes, and be prepared to be touched, kissed and hugged a lot.  Turkish people are very lovely and they have no concept of space.  That was the hardest part for me.  Other than that I love their gift system.  No more items to get stuck with, no 6 blenders or things you will never use.  In Turkey most guest will give you money, close relatives will probably give you jewerly, and the rest most than likely will give you this cool gold coins varrying in size and price.  At the end you just turn them in to a jewerly shop and get a bunch of money back.  The thing I liked the most is that they have this wonderful dance in which almost everyone gets involved. 

127.       jjones
27 posts
 21 Nov 2008 Fri 11:28 pm

I was wondering with different cultures doing cerimonies differently - In Turkey what finger do married people where their wedding rings?

128.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 12:03 am

 

Quoting jjones

I was wondering with different cultures doing cerimonies differently - In Turkey what finger do married people where their wedding rings?

 

 I think you will find the answer here:-

 

http://www.turkishclass.com/sfa/turkce/forumTitle_23827

 

(BTW your spelling is very creative )

129.       jjones
27 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 12:15 am

what was incorrect with my spelling?  And thank you for the answer.

130.       TheAenigma
5001 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 12:18 am

 

Quoting jjones

what was incorrect with my spelling?  And thank you for the answer.

 

  was wondering with different cultures doing CEREMONIES differently - In Turkey what finger do married people WEAR their wedding rings?  The sentence structure was not brilliant either

 

Sorry, just a personal gripe.  There are so many non-English here whose English grammar and spelling are far superior to ours!

 

 

131.       yilgun-7
1326 posts
 22 Nov 2008 Sat 02:38 am

Marriage is marriage everywhere.

-   Engagement, marriage-legal marriage-, divorcement, etc  depend on turkish Code of Civil law- Turkish Civil Law.

-   It is like Swiss Civil Law.

(You cannot live without get married.It is illegal, crime, shame, abnormal and sin according to Turkish culture and world´s moral values.)

-   Marriage requires harmony, mutual respect, private home, furniture, furnishing, reasonable level of income, family´ s approval and family´s financial support.

-   Engagement ceremony-party- is made at the house with the marriage rings.

-   Marriage ceremony is made at the local marriage office-manicipality- town hall-, officially, among families, relatives and guests.

-   Wedding ceremony is made due to the region, financial situation and family´s prefences-choices-.

-   Wedding depends on family´s agreement.

-   Other wedding rings, gifts, piece of jevelries, golden moneys, etc are given to the bride for their honor according to the Turkish tradition and custom.

-   This may change due to family culture, personal level, personal background,  family relatives and financial structure.

 

132.       yilgun-2010
572 posts
 17 Jul 2010 Sat 08:16 pm

Türk Kültür ve geleneğine göre:

- Bir Türk Müslüman kızın, başka bir dine (Hıristiyan veya Yahudi) mensup olan bir yabancı erkek ya da dini olmayan ateist bir yabancı erkek ile evlenmesi doğru değildir.
Çünkü böyle bir evlilikte  ortak bir payda ve denklik yoktur.Sonu iyi bitmez.
Ancak, yabancı erkek Müslümanlığı kabul ettiği takdirde bu evlilik din ve ahlak
açısından geçerli kabul edilir.

- Bir Türk Müslüman erkeğin, dini yönden mevcut 3 ana dinden (İslam, Hıritiyan ya da Yahudi) herhangi birine mensup olmayan bir  yabancı kız ile ya da dini olmayan bir ateist yabancı kız ile evlenmesi doğru değildir.
Çünkü böyle bir evlilikte ortak bir payda ve denklik yoktur.Sonu iyi bitmez.
Ancak, yabancı bir kızın bu 3 dinden birine mensup olması halinde bu evlilik din ve ahlak
açısından geçerli kabul edilir.

 

According to Turkish Culture and Tradition:
- It is not proper for a Turkish muslim girl to marry a foreign guy
who belongs to another religion (christianity or judaism) or a guy who is an atheist.
Because there is no balance nor shared values in such marriage,
it fails anyway.
But if the guy decides to be converted into muslim, the marriage will be counted
as valid according to islamic law and  moral values.
- It is not proper for a Turkish muslim guy to marry a foreign girl
who does not belong to one of the three dominant religions (islam, christianity or judaism)
or a girl who is an atheist.
Because there is no balance nor shared values in such marriage.
It fails anyway.
But if the girl belongs to one of these three religion, the marriage will be counted
as valid according to islamic law and  moral values.

(Translated by scalpel)



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