TC is not a media outlet or a website for informing people about the world and latest news. This is a privately owned community site with a certain purpose, and we have all the right to limit topics allowed for discussion on this platform. Our rights, responsibilities and capabilities are in no way comparable to the ones of a country like US.

 I protest this post... 

But I think, those countries made those laws had a good motive: they don´t want another genocide like the Jewish holocaust. 

Let´s face it, the powerful countries feel they can do anything and they always get away with it, and then they think they can criticise everybody for the very same things they do.

I agree with the statement that they feel they can do anything and get away with this. But I disagree with freedom of speech being the same in, say, USA and Turkey.In Europe or the USA you can protest freely against your  dislikes, even if it´s your country´s policy. You may make fun of the people in charge, religions and all. Those countries protesting against west limit those freedoms. Freedom of speech is not about whether there actually was genoicide of Armenians but whether or not you´re allowed to believe so and not face prosecution. If you protest against Iraq in London, unless you vandalise something, you won´t end up charged with treason. In Turkey, a statement of a transvestite resulted in the threat of charges. Should I go on about cartoons of Mohamet and Theo van Gogh? Is that the freedom of speech you want? Everybody´s free to criticise any religion, political system and government policy and everybody has the right to speak openly about it.

 You can not talk about the freedom of speech about religion, because it was not only condemned by Turkey but by the whole Muslim countries and societies all around the world.. And I think you can not keep Turkey responsible for it.  So it does not make a good example..

And please after Guantanamo Bay prisoners, - how they are treated and why are they there -, let´s not praise America, the land of freedom..  we have seen quite enough recently what they did about Gaza.. and i don´t think America is a dream country anymore... at least definitely not for me.

I have known many immigrants, and I have to say it really breaks my heart to see their attempts at integration into the US society. Many of them come because of war in their homelands, they left to save their lives. Others come for economic reasons, to send money home to their families. The famlies left behind have unreasonable expectations born out of unrealistic ideas of just what the actual economic conditions are.

They try to live with a foot in each country, but rarely get good footing as their possibility for balance is very compromised with their feet in different places. It´s like trying to keep one foot on land and another on a boat.

I´ve seen Latin American immigrants living on hardly anything and living together to cut expenses, so they can send money home.

Watching the cultural change is painful. I know a family from Afghanistan, another from Ethiopia their 14 year old sons listens to music they don´t understand, he wears strange cloths and doesn´t have much respect for their old fashioned family. I was shocked to hear one talking back to his mother. One of the daughters has married an "American". It is so difficult for them to understand all the cultural nuances. They many times become alienated from their children.

Many times they get ill because they don´t understand the food here. They can´t understand the list of ingredients.  Many times they are horribly exploited by their own countrymen who have learned the ropes.

A few do well, but most long for a home that they really can´t return to. The ones who do well are the ones with good educations that are transferable to the US. On many ocassions the degree is not transferable, so they have to take other jobs. I know a woman who was a obstetricion in Bosnia. Here she had to go to school to become a nurse.

Being an immigrant is not easy, and not a thing to do lightly, particularly if you come from an extended family who are close. The children will grow up not knowing who you are, and they won´t care, not like they would have had they had the chance to bond with you by daily life. You become a footnote.

 can you write more clear and to the point? you mix up events. what did muslim countries condemn?

 alameda, you seem to forget about the history built up  by early immigrants. thousands of immigrnats came to US having a few dollars in their pockets. they built up the economy of america. they came with ideas in their heads to have a chance for a  better life or better future for their children. they worked hard, worked hard to achieve all they dreamt of.

but todays immigrants seem to be too much arrogant and demanding. they demand things to what they havent contributed a thing. thats what annoys me much.

and your post annoys me too.

 what is this?  who said that your website is a media? im not a journalist and i dont treat tc as an inforamtion website. in my previous post i mentioned about how expressing opinions is limitted here. catwoman is the best example of a tyrant. she deletes posts according to her moods, whenever she wants.

therefore im saying that before criticising US gov maybe you should look into your own garden.

Ok, read it more carefully this time:

We don´t have claims to have freedom to express all opinions on this site. There are limitations well documented on the site rules that you accepted while creating your account. If you think your ideas are not respected/they are deleted here you are welcome to go to some other site to write those or start your own site with all of your valuable opinions if you will. This has nothing to do with criticising a government for its limiting freedom of speech and manipulating its media. 

Ok, read it more carefully this time:

ok, im reading it carefully as i did previously.

We don´t have claims to have freedom to express all opinions on this site. There are limitations well documented on the site rules that you accepted while creating your account.

sounds fine to me although i disagree with some of them. i too can say on the basis of what you wrote: when you decided to live in a country you too accepted its rules and regulations.

If you think your ideas are not respected/they are deleted here you are welcome to go to some other site to write those or start your own site with all of your valuable opinions if you will.

1. i havent complained about my ideas arent respected,

2. i dont expect anyone to agree or accept all my ideas.

3. i complained about all deleted posts not only mine.

4. catwoman too breakes the rules of this site but her posts never get deleted.

im sure i can go to any other site i wish, thats not a problem, at least theres no limited access to the internet. but in this case i too can say that if you think that your rights arent respected or limited you too are welcome to go to another country and enjoy your valuable rights. am i right?

thank you for complementing my opinions - they are valuable.

This has nothing to do with criticising a government for its limiting freedom of speech and manipulating its media. 

well, i could see the similiarities.