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Clash of civilizations or It is just killing people?
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:00 pm |
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Dogu perincek was sentenced to 9 months of inprisonment.
I reacted to your statement about France!
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:02 pm |
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What I meant was that freedom of speech is restricted in ways that would prevent people from questioning the regime (government) and people who are in power. For example, in Turkey you cannot criticize Ataturk.. in the west you cannot ´sympathise with terrorists´ -- because making people scared of ´terrorists´ is part of the foreign policy and that´s how they justify their middle eastern political agenda.
I´m not 100% sure but I think in my country I can say I support Al Quaida out loud (if I wanted to which is not, not true!). The only thing is that this support should be entirely verbal, no documents, gifts or whatever I think. So only saying that one supports terrorists is not forbidden here.
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:05 pm |
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I reacted to your statement about France!
what is difference of inprisonment and getting fine? they are both punishment. and how do you know that you just get a fine in France?
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:12 pm |
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what is difference of inprisonment and getting fine? they are both punishment. and how do you know that you just get a fine in France?
Quite some I think. And I didn´t say you get a fine in France, I said I think it is that way.
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:15 pm |
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I would surely perfer a fine to imprisonment 
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:18 pm |
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I would surely perfer a fine to imprisonment
would that change the fact that you`re not allowed to say armenian genocide is a lie in france? what if I don`t have any money to pay that fine?
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:18 pm |
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I´m not 100% sure but I think in my country I can say I support Al Quaida out loud (if I wanted to which is not, not true!). The only thing is that this support should be entirely verbal, no documents, gifts or whatever I think. So only saying that one supports terrorists is not forbidden here.
I think in America, there is a law that in case they suspect - no proof or no action is occured - that someone has some links or supporter of a so called group, they can detain you for an unlimited time..
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:22 pm |
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I think in America, there is a law that in case they suspect - no proof or no action is occured - that someone has some links or supporter of a so called group, they can detain you for an unlimited time..
OK. But is America THE west? They might think so, I don´t (and many with me). I´m not from the US.
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:24 pm |
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I think in America, there is a law that in case they suspect - no proof or no action is occured - that someone has some links or supporter of a so called group, they can detain you for an unlimited time..
Yeah I ´ve heard of it. It´s a law the Bush administration made after 9/11 I think. It caused people to be suspecious of neighbours, friends and family in certain areas in the US 
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:24 pm |
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OK. But is America THE west? They might think so, I don´t (and many with me). I´m not from the US.
ahahhaaa yea anything bad is not the west. (the nazis were not western either, they were all secret muslims). aren`t france and switzerland western either?
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18 Jan 2009 Sun 10:28 pm |
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ahahhaaa yea anything bad is not the west. (the nazis were not western either, they were all secret muslims). aren`t france and switzerland western either?
You know Tami, you should ask an atlas for your birthday. ´The west´ exists of many countries, many times very different in laws or culture. Like your Turkey is not the same as Saudi-Arabia, Indonesia, Nigeria or Iran, mine is not the same as the US, France or Switzerland.
I never denied that bad things happen(ed), and such an absurd statement that nazi´s were muslims can only be in your brains!!
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