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170.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 12:21 pm

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171.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 23 Feb 2009 Mon 11:16 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

Quote: thehandsom

Well I am a Turk and I was trying OWN what our goverments or our army did..

If I say THE army, or THE rulers of Turkey it would not look nice because they are OUR goverment and OUR army..I do want to show that as a Turk,  I do know them and I do own them.

I know you are living in the UK at the moment but is this a permanent arrangement?  Do you have UK citizenship I wonder?  If you are a UK citizen then I would say your right to say OUR is relinquished in favour of THE.  Or perhaps the fact that you use OUR is answering my question.  I would be interested anyway. Thanks in advance.

 

 Hmmm .. . I don´t understand why you haven´t answered my question.  You had the time early this morning to answer more complicated issues but not mine?

 

I will assume silence is a refusal to answer.  No matter.

172.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 02:56 am

 I don´t think he will answer that question...

 

Quoting peacetrain

 

 

 Hmmm .. . I don´t understand why you haven´t answered my question.  You had the time early this morning to answer more complicated issues but not mine?

 

I will assume silence is a refusal to answer.  No matter.

 

 

173.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 03:03 am

It is not the government officials directly funding or supporting. It is the secret service and the intelligence. I hope I don´t need to explain how the intelligence services do not always follow the official stance of their respective governments. It is always the case that the governemtn takes one stance, and the secret services operate under differing intentions.

 

Was the CIA´s acts of supporting, training, funding and arming dictatorships, or escalating violence in different parts of the world through state-sponsored terrorism in accord with the official views of the US government pertaining to such issues?

 

You won´t find any ´concrete´ evidence simply because the operations of intelligence services do not involve construction in concrete. They are neither masons nor are they constructors. They are operatives who operate under secrecy and silence. They aim not not leave any evidence so that there is not a political scandal. Every once in a while, they mess up, and that is when you get your daily dose of Watergate sandals or the Abu Gharib torture pics...

Quoting thehandsom

 

Well I am not sure if I take this post seriously or not.

So far, I have not seen any concrete evidence for western countries supporting of PKK and you have not provided any either..

if you check the weaponary of any terrorist organisation or any armed groups , you will find the same kind list..

I am sure AlQaide, hamas, hezbullah, chechens etc. are using similar kind of weapons..

Any organisation that has money can buy those things in the market I assume..

Regarding your statement  about "pkk financing activities concantrated in EU countries" is correct..And also there might be drug related money in it too..

But that does not mean ´PKK is financed by EU countries´.

 

 

 

174.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 03:14 am

It is known the Turkish MIT is under the affect of CIA or used by CIA, this is not new, it has been happening since Turkey entered NATO. This also includes some parts of army, thats because today they are trying to refine or trying to defame some generals who openly declare that they are against the NATO. 

 

Quoting cynicmystic

It is not the government officials directly funding or supporting. It is the secret service and the intelligence.

 

 



Edited (2/24/2009) by armegon

175.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 03:41 am

 

Quoting TheJanissary

Angels of Thehansom or should I say harem

 

lol as far as i remember he confessed his harem had blown up, perhaps he established new harem then...

176.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 03:42 am

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

Great!  So Kurds are Turks too eh?

 

 No, simply because they want to say they are Kurds

177.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 04:27 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 And I am sure Canli wont bother to delete this message either..

 

 

I dont understand why you only request this from CANLI, TC has six moderators following this section like libralady, Sui, lady in Red.  Was only CANLI online at that time? Did you send pm’s to the other moderators? Apparently, there has been a continuing injustice campaign against CANLI directed by gang members ,  i think she tries her best as a moderator...

178.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 05:25 am

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

lol as far as i remember he confessed his harem had blown up, perhaps he established new harem then...

 

 

I thought he is only interested in politics, not harem.  coz he is an european, modern, intelligent, pkk sympatizer harem is old fashioned and outworn.

maybe, that s why he invented internet harem

179.       TheJanissary
384 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 05:29 am

 

Quoting armegon

 

 

I dont understand why you only request this from CANLI, TC has six moderators following this section like libralady, Sui, lady in Red.  Was only CANLI online at that time? Did you send pm’s to the other moderators? Apparently, there has been a continuing injustice campaign against CANLI directed by gang members ,  i think she tries her best as a moderator...

 

 I dont understand how did he manage to direct all moderators.

all of the moderators do what he wants...

someone explain please...

 

180.       armegon
1872 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 05:57 am

Actually this Kurdish politician should first learn to interpret law and nationalism of Turkey, it says the ones who are bounded the Turkish state with citizenship, is Turk. This has nothing to do with ethnicity. For example a Brasilian who has eligible to get Turkish citizenship and want to be a Turkish citizen, after then he also called Turk officially by Turkish state. What do you expect from Türkiye to call him? Brasilian? Isnt this divisiveness between Turkey’s citizens?

 

Quoting thehandsom

 Below is a paragraph from a kurdish politician :

 

"In the constitution it says that ‘everyone bound to the Turkish state through the bond of citizenship is a Turk’. According to official explanations, this sentence defines Turkish society and not an ethnic group. However, this is not true. The statements, practices and laws of the founders of Turkey show that this sentence refers to Turkish ethnicity. If this article is not changed, we cannot talk of a solution of the Kurdish issue."

 

 

 

 

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