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90.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:49 am

 

Quoting armegon

thehandsom you are lacking of understanding as usual, what i said read carefully, the articles which you here usually post from Zaman and its puppets adore sharia, thats what i pointed out. Do you have reading? I didnt live among you, i lived among those fethullah supporters and witnessed their real face.  I dont care if you adore sharia or not. I just showed their mentality, and it seems to me you like it very much. Do you remember the honest girl which she said she dont like Atatürk in the program teketek? Her husband lost his job, these AKP puppets fired her husband. And you remember the “çakma liberal” girls there , nothing happened to them because they were sneaky, i just portray you like those çakma liberals and portray chiko as pawn.  I think nothing wrong with it , i dont need to show any post of you that belittle Atatürk actually your posts tell everything

 

 

 

 

 

I have read your post..

You are right...you were refering to fetullah supporters.. apologies..

But I am  still not sure on how my posts belittle Ataturk..

91.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:51 am

Ým sorry i havent seen your post, things became calm as i hope so i thought i can do other things than following that thread if i may, and also took me time to try to translate it.

92.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 03:52 am

 

Quoting CANLI

Ým sorry i havent seen your post, things became calm as i hope so i thought i can do other things than following that thread if i may, and also took me time to try to translate it.

 

So the result?

93.       CANLI
5084 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 04:01 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

So the result?

 

 Excuse me ?

94.       alameda
3499 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 04:08 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

What a surprise..Canli is not deleting Janissary´s post..lol

Great moderation Canli..

 

Janissary´s post? I didn´t see one in this thread, or any posts by him lately. Did I miss something?

95.       armegon
1872 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 04:09 am

By the way great writing cynicmystic, describes many of the points, thanks, why dont you post this also on your coloumn?

Quoting cynicmystic

 

I just want to share some of my thoughts on the establishment of a Kurdistan, and some of the possible intentions that may lurk behind such an idea.

 

True, the idea of establishing a new country called Kurdistan, which will supposedly include southeastern Turkey, parts of Iran and Iraq, has been around for a while. But, on the contrary to your suggestion, this idea has nothing to do with the thoughtful & benevolent sentiments about giving ´landless people´ their land that they can call their own in the name of justice or fairness. The Kurdish issue, as well as the Armenian issue, has always been political tools designed, implemented and propogated by Western countries. Depending on the specific geopolitical circumstances of each time period, the Kurdish & Armenian cards are played by the big players, such as the US, Germany, France, and the UK, for the sole purpose of protecting their vested interests in the region. The involvement of Germany & the UK in funding & arming the PKK, and escalating violence in Turkey is well known.  

Whether the Turkish army reacted the right way or not to these externally imposed challenges is debatable. However, the real cuplrits behind this state-sponsored terrorism were Germany & the UK, not really Turkey. I have always felt that the Turkish army should have been smarter and have employed different tactics to deal with the problem. For over a decade, over one third of the government´s revenues went into dropping bombs on its own land and people. The Turkish army literally shot itself in the foot.

 

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Edited (2/22/2009) by armegon

96.       tamikidakika
1346 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 04:15 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

tami tami..

It is a historical document..

British does not refer to ethnicity the way you know it in the uk..

Even the PM G Brown is trying to figure out what british is..

So sorry but keep sucking your thumb and make sure it down not get all wrinkly..

 

 

yea yea, being Turk does not refer to ethnicity either and thats defined in the Turkish constitution. and the word british comes from the briton race as I proved.

 

ok theH, you`re getting funny, and I`m not interested in your crappy rhetoric which Ive proved wrong. have fun. you still suck.

97.       cynicmystic
567 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 06:13 am

Becasue I will perhaps get attacked; receive hate mail; be called a nationalist patriotic pig brainwashed in rhetoric and all else that comes with being logical. I just wrote it in handsom´s thread so that people could actually have something that is worthy of reading other than newspaper articles... But, thanks anyway man. I appreciate it.

Quoting armegon

By the way great writing cynicmystic, describes many of the points, thanks, why dont you post this also on your coloumn?

 

 

 

 

98.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 11:08 am

 

Quoting CANLI

 

 

 Excuse me ?

 

I was asking if you deleted Janissary´s post or not..

It seems like you have..thank you..

99.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 11:51 am

 

Quoting tamikidakika

 

 

yea yea, being Turk does not refer to ethnicity either and thats defined in the Turkish constitution. and the word british comes from the briton race as I proved.

 

ok theH, you`re getting funny, and I`m not interested in your crappy rhetoric which Ive proved wrong. have fun. you still suck.

 

I think I mentioned this issue in many many threads..

The word "Turk" refers to ethinicity..

Almost all rethorics the word Turk is being used refers to ethinicity..(we discussed these in another thread..it was about ´ne mutlu turkum diyene´ )

I can give you hundereds of examples for that..

 

Below is a paragraph from a kurdish politician :

 

"In the constitution it says that ‘everyone bound to the Turkish state through the bond of citizenship is a Turk’. According to official explanations, this sentence defines Turkish society and not an ethnic group. However, this is not true. The statements, practices and laws of the founders of Turkey show that this sentence refers to Turkish ethnicity. If this article is not changed, we cannot talk of a solution of the Kurdish issue."

 

 

100.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 22 Feb 2009 Sun 12:05 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

For some Kurdish people, their home is in Turkey.

 

Of course Turkey is their home..

They have been living in that area  of Anatolia before we Turks have arrived there..

And they have always called themselves Kurds..

They called themselves kurds during Ottomans.. Their area was refered as Kurdistan by the Sultans in official writings..

But then our nationalism came into action with the motto is "One race  one nation".

Then came the assimilation..Banning their language, changing the kurdish names, burning the villages, torturing kurds in diyarbakir jail etc..

Then  start talking about ´foreign powers´, UK & Germany etc..

Yeah yeah..

 

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