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260.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:05 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 No handsom I think that is you that has got it wrong again. These interpretations were done by Islamic scholars. I will do another google and get a Scottish translation and get back too you. Unsure

 

Well

I am telling you you are wrong. Those islamic scholars would spend their times trying paing a rosy picture about Islam.

But the reality, the way it is interpreted and applied  are  different..

I have already told you that women in my country call themselves "dirty" during their mensturation !!!

 

261.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:08 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I am telling you you are wrong. Those islamic scholars would spend their times trying paing a rosy picture about Islam.

 

 

 Based on what evidence?  I have read some very interesting thoughts by Islamic scholars recently who are trying to effect change, including incorporating Darwin´s theory and modern living into their religion.

262.       bydand
755 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:11 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Well

I am telling you you are wrong. Those islamic scholars would spend their times trying paing a rosy picture about Islam.

But the reality, the way it is interpreted and applied  are  different..

I have already told you that women in my country call themselves "dirty" during their mensturation !!!

 

 

 Okay handsom I bow to your greater wisdom. Confused



Edited (8/29/2009) by bydand

263.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:26 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Based on what evidence?  I have read some very interesting thoughts by Islamic scholars recently who are trying to effect change, including incorporating Darwin´s theory and modern living into their religion.

 

Read Ibn Maskawayh, who lived 800 years before Darwin. See where Darwin got his theory from.

264.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:30 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

Read Ibn Maskawayh, who lived 800 years before Darwin. See where Darwin got his theory from.

 

 Ahh dear Alpha - I dont want to get involved in an argument about Darwinism or who was first or who plagarised who, I just wrote that the article mentioned that Islamic scholars were hoping to include Darwinism within the Quran - it is not an opinion

265.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:37 pm

 

Quoting bydand

 

 

 Okay handsom I bow to your greater wisdom. Confused

 

Do not mention it..

You were trying to defend a primitive, backward idea or ideas which are not compatible in todays way of living.  So no surpise really..

 

266.       _AE_
677 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:42 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Do not mention it..

You were trying to defend a primitive, backward idea or ideas which are not compatible in todays way of living.  So no surpise really..

 

 

 Maybe you should have said "not compatible in today´s western way of living".  Rich talk from someone who is primitive and backward in so many other ways...

267.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 29 Aug 2009 Sat 06:47 pm

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Maybe you should have said "not compatible in today´s western way of living".  Rich talk from someone who is primitive and backward in so many other ways...

 

Lets do not get up close and personal please..OK?

lol lol 

268.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 30 Aug 2009 Sun 12:17 am

 

Quoting _AE_

 

 

 Ahh dear Alpha - I dont want to get involved in an argument about Darwinism or who was first or who plagarised who, I just wrote that the article mentioned that Islamic scholars were hoping to include Darwinism within the Quran - it is not an opinion

Islam´s holy book is not one that scholars  can add to or delete  from.

On the other hand, if you see an Islamic scholar who is trying to reconcile Darwin´s theories with Islam, you can safely tell him he is about 900 years too late. Ibn Maskawayh was there 900 years ago.

 

269.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Aug 2009 Sun 12:30 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Islam´s holy book is not one that scholars  can add to or delete  from.

On the other hand, if you see an Islamic scholar who is trying to reconcile Darwin´s theories with Islam, you can safely tell him he is about 900 years too late. Ibn Maskawayh was there 900 years ago.

 

 

Let me repeat - I was writing something I had READ in an article, it was not my personal opinion.  However, as you are seeking my personal opinion then firstly I would say that Ibn Maskawayh may have been first, but he certainly was not very successful in convincing anybody!  Secondly, it is not about adding anything or deleting it from the Quran, it is about understanding it.  This is very important, as for centuries you have all been thinking you were going to spend paradise with 70 virgins when in fact you will receive grapes! lol

 

I believe this shows the importance of translating CORRECTLY from original texts for better understanding - dont you?



Edited (8/30/2009) by _AE_

270.       _AE_
677 posts
 30 Aug 2009 Sun 12:39 am

However...not wanting to dampen your spirit, "modern apologists of Islam try to downplay the evident materialism and sexual implications of such descriptions, but, as the Encyclopaedia of Islam says, even orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash´ari (died 935 CE) have "admitted sensual pleasures into paradise". The sensual pleasures are graphically elaborated by Al-Suyuti (died 1505 ), Koranic commentator and polymath. He wrote: "Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetising vaginas."

 

A kind of spiritual Viagra? lollollol



Edited (8/30/2009) by _AE_

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