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280.       foka
597 posts
 30 Aug 2009 Sun 09:59 pm

 

Quoting birdy

 

...... in my country nobody treats a woman during menstruation time as a "dirty"one.Although most of population are Christians and Catholics.

 It is the wisdom of Dabrowskis population to treat  such things  as a normal process, nobody here makes a big fuss about it.Neither religious or non.

 VIVA POLONYA!!!!Alcoholics

 

281.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 30 Aug 2009 Sun 11:23 pm

Not all turkish are religious.

282.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 12:44 am

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Edited (8/31/2009) by AlphaF

283.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 12:45 am

 

Quoting AlphaF

" I would recommend improving personal hygine. It´ll help with the smell, I promise"

 

Lets get a few things straight regarding fasting of ladies in mensturation periods. I will not be surprised if what I have to say does not make full sense to the uninitiated, but it is the best I can do.

 

1. The term "dirty" used in association with ladies in such periods is not simply related to insuffiency or total lack of personal hygene.  It is more related to staus of that person´s spritual cleanliness or spiritual fitness  to qualify for worship.

 

2. In other words, a person can be in perfect hygenically clean  physical conditions (men or women), yet may not qualify to face his creator in worship. He or she has to fulfill a certain ritual to elevate (cleanse)  his spirit before he is elligible to worship.

 

3. Examples of such conditions that may get a person into this "unfit to worship" status  include sexual intercourse or ladies mensturation periods. The situations however are not considered derogatory or humiliating in any respect. All one has to do is to go through a very simple religious ritual to restore his/her spiritual elligibility to worship.

 

4. I will spare you the details of the required ritual. It will suffice to say  that it involves only a considered declaration of "intention" to achieve spiritual cleanliness and a few simple ritualistic steps.

 

5. To summerize,

- Fasting is form of worshipping,

- One needs to attain a certain level of spiritual purity to qualify for any kind of worship, which necessary level of purity may be impaired after certain specified actions.

- Such actions that may impair one´s elligibility to worship may be of natural causes hence are not necessarily  humiliating for such persons (ex: having sexual intercourse, mensturation, masturbation etc.). The only requirement is that one´s impaired spiritual purity level has to be restored back to required levels - thru a simple religious ritual- as soon as such conditions or acts are over.

 

6. By a religious definition,  ( it does not matter if she takes 16 baths a day or uses 12 diiferent parfumes all at the same time) MENSTURATION PERIOD is a stretch of time during which no religious ritual can restore a lady´s spiritual cleanliness to quallify her as fit for worshiping. She is not considered abnormal, unnatural or looked down upon during such periods, but simply excused from all obligations to worship. Say, if the period comes in the middle of Ramadan, (a) considered as unfit to worship, she will simply stop fasting (or any other form of worship) for that many days, (b) once the period is over, restore her elligibility to worship by going thru the required ritual and continue fasting for the remainder of the month.

 

She will however,  be expected to fast for an equal number of days to make up for the missed days, after the month of Ramadan. No hard feelings anywhere....

 

That is  just about it, folks !

 

 

284.       ReyhanL
1961 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 01:10 am

       During menstruation i feel..great i can say...even if hurts bad. Ý never feel as much woman as in menstruation time. Ýts a blessing. A woman can have sexual intercourse from 10-11 years old ( we often hear on tv) since 70 or more...but cannot procreate all her life! So on menstuation time i need to feel more close to God and thank him for this gift : to be able to procreate .



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Edited (8/31/2009) by ReyhanL [.]

285.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 02:42 am

I`m wondering how this topic got from ramadan to menstruation. I suspect gg hijacked the thread. <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

286.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 03:02 am

I can´t help posting this:

 

I don´t trust women. I mean, how can you trust something that bleeds for a few days every month and doesn´t die?

 

lol

 

That´s about the only thing that came to my mind reading the above posts. So...men-created religions treat menstruating women as dirty? Surprise, surprise. And believe the dead endometrium cells influence spiritual impurity? Geez, that must mean soul is located at the entrance to the uterus lol

 

I come from a very religious country but Dobrowskis treat religion as tradition of christening, communion and white weddings. I know some of my friends have sex during their or their partners´ period while some don´t. And it´s not religion influencing that but personal preference. Actually everybody treat menstruation as a normal thing. We don´t inform people that we´re menstruating but we´re not ashamed of it either. I´ve never met anyone considering women impure just because it was that part of the cycle...

287.       mhsn supertitiz
518 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 03:04 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

I can´t help posting this:

 

I don´t trust women. I mean, how can you trust something that bleeds for a few days every month and doesn´t die?

 

 

ahahahah wasn`t it Al Bundy who said that? but it`s so true <img src='/static/images/smileys//lol.gif' alt='lol'> (fast)

288.       raindrops
267 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 10:52 am

 

Quoting birdy

 

 

 I don´t know which country you are from raindrops,but in my country nobody treats a woman during menstruation time as a "dirty"one.Although most of population are Christians and Catholics.

 It is the wisdom of Dabrowskis population to treat  such things  as a normal process, nobody here makes a big fuss about it.Neither religious or non.

look, we think by categories of time we live in. it was just different when these rules were created.

did women have pads and so on 300-500 years ago? in my country you won´t be let to enter the church during the periods (if anybody knows, of course , but it does not change the ancient rule). and it is understandable. can you imagine the small room with many people in (sweat (of course we all got used to be washed before going to church, but antiperspirants are too modern to be considered), candles, incense, unique smells of different people) and odor of periods of women ... blood is hard to wash out, plus smell etc... many people would faint of such bouquet of aromas.

We tend to consider "dirty" figurative, but if we take it directly it will have more sense.  Sex during periods was also NO bec smegma can cause erosion during the normal days, and more likely to do so during periods. when you have wound on your arm you cover it, protect from dirt.

now circumstances changed and reasons for ancient rules are forgotten. thus, women are fighting for their rights and for being equal. with time rules will be changed either it will be very natural. just minds are slower to be changed.

from other hand being women makes hard to accept that you are less than men.  though from the position of agriculture it is perfectly expedient: periods 12 times a year or pregnancy each year, less powered muscles etc. Thus, absurdity and ineptitude of certain rules today does not mean their vainness in the past.

 

289.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 06:57 pm

 

Quoting raindrops

 

 

thanks for support )))

in fact i m not doubting, i just know what he doesnt Cool

is he already legend of the TC ? demonic one?

though, having good opponent is exciting )

 

Raindrops..We are still waiting

290.       raindrops
267 posts
 31 Aug 2009 Mon 10:32 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

Raindrops..We are still waiting

 

i m writing. it takes time. i also need some sources not to be unfounded.

greatly appreciate your patience in advance!

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