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The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish
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90.       scalpel
1472 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 05:22 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

It is very simple: if you deny people´s basic rights like we did to Kurds, people would rebel!!! (and people who tend to deny these things, always accuse the others as being terrorists)

That is the summary..

 

 

 If only the problem were as simple as you make it out to be, then we could give them those basic rights back, and let the problem solve on its own. Wink

 

I have many Kurdish friends (of different political views, different religious sects, different lifestyles) like some of you do, that almost all of them see the problem different than you are describing. To whom should I believe? You or them? 

 

It would be difficult to believe that they are fighting, killing and being killed for extra 2 or 3 letters to add to their alphabet, or to take their "place names" back. They are probably not a good reason for them to die, are they?

 

And, please, stop making it look like all the Kurds support pkk and voted for DTP in the last elections. They got 5.7 % of the votes.(at least 15% of the voters are Kurd) This is because pkk cannot force the Kurdish voters living in western Turkey to vote for the political party they don´t want to vote for. Or maybe you think only 5.7% of the voters are Kurd!{#emotions_dlg.lol}

91.       si++
3785 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 08:45 am

 

Quoting scalpel

 

 

 If only the problem were as simple as you make it out to be, then we could give them those basic rights back, and let the problem solve on its own. Wink

 

I have many Kurdish friends (of different political views, different religious sects, different lifestyles) like some of you do, that almost all of them see the problem different than you are describing. To whom should I believe? You or them? 

 

It would be difficult to believe that they are fighting, killing and being killed for extra 2 or 3 letters to add to their alphabet, or to take their "place names" back. They are probably not a good reason for them to die, are they?

 

And, please, stop making it look like all the Kurds support pkk and voted for DTP in the last elections. They got 5.7 % of the votes.(at least 15% of the voters are Kurd) This is because pkk cannot force the Kurdish voters living in western Turkey to vote for the political party they don´t want to vote for. Or maybe you think only 5.7% of the voters are Kurd!{#emotions_dlg.lol}

 

I am suspicious about that 5.7% as well. In rural areas they voted for DTP because they were threatened by the terrorists otherwise they would be target of some terrorist acts by PKK had they voted for some other parties.

 

92.       scalpel
1472 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 12:10 pm

 

Quoting si++

 

 

I am suspicious about that 5.7% as well. In rural areas they voted for DTP because they were threatened by the terrorists otherwise they would be target of some terrorist acts by PKK had they voted for some other parties.

 

 

 That´s true. They often go to vote in the shadow of guns and some call it democratic. 

93.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 12:12 pm

No one can be despised solely on the basis of  his etnic roots.

Any etnic group that breeds terorists however, should be treated with extreme caution...Not because of their etnic origin, but because they breed terorists.

94.       scalpel
1472 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 01:24 pm

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

I remember a friend of mine was coming from Diyarbakir on a couch, and stopped by terrorists pkk militants(this is a long time ago btw)..And they started to ask questions: they asked my friend to tell them name of  kurdish cities.. My friend told told them Diyarbakir some more cities and then Gaziantep.. He got slapped by one of the terrorists and he said ´since when Antep is kurdish? )

Is it really a Kurdish city? or its population increased by the immigrated kurds whose villages got burt in east?

how about Izmir? It is one of the most developed cities in Turkey..

why are they not supporting terrorism? lol lol 

 

 

 You should ask the same question about Diyarbakır: since when Diyarbakır is Kurdish?

 

Look at this:

 

http://www.madenliyiz.biz/news.php?readmore=9

 

Did you count how many Armenian employees worked for the local government in the years between 1869-1905?

 

Look at this also:

 

http://www.akader.info/sbard/sayilar/2005Eylul/18.pdf

 

Did you count how many Armenian schools were in Diyarbakır for example in the year 1869?

 

What happened to those poor Armenians that they all disappeared from the city and remain only as dry numbers in historical documents as in those above ?

 

Kurds occupied the cities abandoned by Armenians?

 

Do not Kurds have Armenian blood on their hands?

 

And read this:

 

http://www.armenian-history.com/Nyuter/HISTORY/G_Moumdjian/kurd_4.htm

 

It is a biased article accusing Turks more than Kurds (for political reasons of course) but yet it will make you open your eyes to more of what was/is going on. (if you are interested!) 

 

Sorry if seeing Kurds and Armenians massacrating each other to the last man makes your stomach turn...

 

95.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 03:45 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

Any etnic group that breeds terorists however, should be treated with extreme caution...Not because of their etnic origin, but because they breed terorists.

 

Does it also go for religious groups? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

96.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 05:51 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Does it also go for religious groups? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

 exactly

 

I´m sorry, but I do´t "handle" the Turkish people I meet with caution, just because I know some muslim idiots are terrorists. And there is also such a thing as a Turkish terrorist.

97.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 06:07 pm

 

Quoting Daydreamer

 

 

Does it also go for religious groups? {#emotions_dlg.unsure}

 

Religious terorists are no better than ethnic terorists....Terorists are bad and should not be protected or defended whatever their origins may be.

98.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 06:12 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

 

 

 exactly

 

I´m sorry, but I do´t "handle" the Turkish people I meet with caution, just because I know some muslim idiots are terrorists. And there is also such a thing as a Turkish terrorist.

 

You must have sufficient brains to differentiate between "Turkish people" and "Turkish terorist" before you enter into this discussion.

 

If you know the difference, what is your problem?

99.       gezegen
269 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 06:26 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

You must have sufficient brains to differentiate between "Turkish people" and "Turkish terorist" before you enter into this discussion.

 

If you know the difference, what is your problem?

 

And if you have no words, filtered from your supposedly wisdom, to say something about the term ´turkish terrorist´, just shut up! (instead of insulting). If you have, then we are all ears!

100.       barba_mama
1629 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 08:30 pm

 

Quoting AlphaF

 

 

You must have sufficient brains to differentiate between "Turkish people" and "Turkish terorist" before you enter into this discussion.

 

If you know the difference, what is your problem?

 

You said, and I quote "Any etnic group that breeds terorists however, should be treated with extreme caution...Not because of their etnic origin, but because they breed terorists." ... Well, Turks have brought forward terrorists, so I must handle Turks with caution, accordig to your own logic. Or are you telling me that there are different rules for Turks? Handle with caution, except when it´s a Turk?



Edited (5/31/2010) by barba_mama

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