it means u all foreigners will hide your rubbish under your carpet and will continue criticising Turkey..welldone

DJ xxxx

 Aren´t you too judgmental,canim??? MK XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Why not? He is just repeating your words, canim.

As far as I remember the topic of this thread is the main differences between Kurdish and Turkish societies rather than the problems between them. 

What strange is; not Kurdish people foreigner “girls” begin to talk in an offensive manner. There must be a reason of that! But what I offer to those girls is not to talk about an issue if you don’t know the background of it. You cannot reach the truths just with talking with your lovers, you just provoke others.

I am a Turkish man and Kurdish people are my brothers and sisters. Most Turkish and Kurdish people think the same. The problem is terrorism both for Turks and Kurds. Kurdish people are the most negatively affected people who have being affected of terrorism.

As an answer to the main topic, the biggest difference between Turkish and Kurdish societies is feudalism.  Kurdish society has being managed by feudal leaders. If those feudal leaders assume terrorism is more profitable for their own, they have used their people for it. There can be any countries in the world that does not fight with terrorism. Feudal leaders sacrifice my brothers with no excuse for their own profits. My brothers kill me for their feudal leaders’ sakes.

Please use a bit of intelligence, can a slave say no to his owner? How much individual is a slave? Feudal leaders are the enemies of my Kurdish siblings, not the government.

Now some Kurdish people are offensive against Turkey. I hope they and their girlfriends realize that the reason of their less wellness is their feudal social structure and not being individuals.

Listening to Kurdish songs was not allowed during the most chaotic period of terror. Because anything related to Kurdish was being used by feudal leaders to provoke Kurdish people. Even in this post although the subject was totally different somehow we begin to talk Kurdish problem guess why? Feudal leaders want to increase Kurdish nationalism and use Kurdish people and their lovers as alive bombs or uneducated defenders of their wishes.

I am not saying that government did everything right. First of all Turkish government failed to resolve feudal structure of Kurdish society. Forbids throw Kurdish people to their own assassins’ –Feudal Leaders- arms.  However any government can be perfect.

Turkey has faced with a lot of problems rather than Kurdish problem,. Military coups affected all Turkey; there were conflicts in Fatsa (Fatsa is a town in northern Turkey and the attacks were not towards Kurdish people), Alevi people have been killed in Sivas, Kahramanmaraş etc. these were not conflicts with Kurds. But none of those conflicts turn to be chronically. The problems have been soluted or being soluting by time. Those people didn’t be terrorists. But some Kurds did!

If Turkish Republic was against Kurdish people, one fifth of the first parliament would not formed by Kurdish people. Turkey would not realize its biggest economical project in south east Turkey. (South East Anatolian Project GAP), there would not be Prime Ministers and Presidents of Kurdish origin. There would not be Kurdish high officers or soldiers either. Etc, etc.

I want to finish my very long comment with Turkish schools and so called Kurdish flag and so called Kurdish language ban. Like all acknowledged countries schools established in Turkey, Turkish schools were established in Europe and in other continents. We certainly know that most of those countries also support Kurdish people and terrorism clearly or privily.

Speaking Kurdish has never banned in Turkey. There are millions of people who just speak Kurdish. But those people received public services as much as the ones who know Turkish language. If I were a Kurdish person I would let all my children to learn Turkish. But individuals’ values are not more than cows’ values in feudal structures. Kurdish girls or boys fathers did not let them be educated. Even if there were schools who teach Kurdish they would not send the kids there in order that social structure. Now Kurdish courses are free in Turkey and there are almost any students of those.

There is only one flag in Turkey like all countries. Please never provoke this issue. If foreign powers and feudal leaders let us free we solve everything easily.  Because Kurdish and Turkish people are siblings.

One flag like in any other country? There is not one flag in Holland... The Frisian people have their own language, and their own flag over here. And I´m not going to have a discussion again about how Kurdish WAS banned in public. Anyway, good post. It gives me another side to look from at this issue.

 +100000000000000000000000000

DJxxx

 we have one flag if u have more than one, it is your problem,  we dont care it so it is not our business

DJxxx

I want to add just one more word about a class mate´s claim which tells "least educated teachers are appointed to south east"

I am a development specialist. I want to work in south east Turkey very much because there is the most attractive place for my field of work. However i do not go. You know why? Because I afraid. Now tell me, while an idealist person who wants to go there can not go south-east, how can we expect teachers and doctors to choose there?

But social goverment owns education and heath care responsibilities of all regions in a country. That is why there are 3 years obligatory work for teachers, 1.5 years for doctors and 4 years for security staff.

Gaziantep is also in South East but society of Gaziantep dont support terrorism. Please check thge indicators of Gaziantep about security, education, heath etc. You will realize that Gaziantep is one of the top developed and secure city of Turkey. Now please ask yourself; why is Antep developed but not it´s neighbours?

I think the answer is terrorism. Goverment tries to do its work. She spends taxes to increase social welfare in south east. But isn´t it the time for some Kurdish people to stop supporting terrorism?

Does the terrorist has no mistake?

 Awww, lemoncim,balim...sen bilirsin

da, men wszystko bilyorum

Interesting facts about Gaziantep. It makes me wonder, which came first... underdevelopment or support for terrorism. Which is the cause, which is the effect? I can see how an unstable scoiety, which supports terrorism, will have difficulty to develop itself. On the other hand, if people are poor, and they see that they live in an underdeveloped society, this can actually lead to terrorism. A feeling of resentment of the "have nots"  towards the "haves" Complex, perhaps it is a circle, with no clear cause and effect, but which needs to be broken in any case.