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The differences in culture - Turkish/Kurdish
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80.       oeince
582 posts
 14 May 2010 Fri 11:36 am

To tell the truth, i wrote it down to talk about sth easy.

 

Its not so possible to find out differences between two societies which are that stick to each other.

 

Let me correct my statement as; I like the way Kurdish people play davul and zurna as a guy from the black sea...

81.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 02:25 am

 

Quoting oeince

I want to add just one more word about a class mate´s claim which tells "least educated teachers are appointed to south east"

 

I am a development specialist. I want to work in south east Turkey very much because there is the most attractive place for my field of work. However i do not go. You know why? Because I afraid. Now tell me, while an idealist person who wants to go there can not go south-east, how can we expect teachers and doctors to choose there?

 

But social goverment owns education and heath care responsibilities of all regions in a country. That is why there are 3 years obligatory work for teachers, 1.5 years for doctors and 4 years for security staff.

 

Gaziantep is also in South East but society of Gaziantep dont support terrorism. Please check thge indicators of Gaziantep about security, education, heath etc. You will realize that Gaziantep is one of the top developed and secure city of Turkey. Now please ask yourself; why is Antep developed but not it´s neighbours?

 

I think the answer is terrorism. Goverment tries to do its work. She spends taxes to increase social welfare in south east. But isn´t it the time for some Kurdish people to stop supporting terrorism?

 

Does the terrorist has no mistake?

 

I remember a friend of mine was coming from Diyarbakir on a couch, and stopped by terrorists pkk militants(this is a long time ago btw)..And they started to ask questions: they asked my friend to tell them name of  kurdish cities.. My friend told told them Diyarbakir some more cities and then Gaziantep.. He got slapped by one of the terrorists and he said ´since when Antep is kurdish? )

Is it really a Kurdish city? or its population increased by the immigrated kurds whose villages got burt in east?

how about Izmir? It is one of the most developed cities in Turkey..

why are they not supporting terrorism? lol lol 

 



Edited (5/31/2010) by thehandsom
Edited (5/31/2010) by thehandsom

82.       oeince
582 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 02:45 am

Gaziantep is also in South East but society of Gaziantep dont support terrorism. Please check thge indicators of Gaziantep about security, education, heath etc. You will realize that Gaziantep is one of the top developed and secure city of Turkey. Now please ask yourself; why is Antep developed but not it´s neighbours?

 

So your answer is; In order Antep is not a Kurdish city it is developed?

 

83.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 02:50 am

 

Quoting oeince

Gaziantep is also in South East but society of Gaziantep dont support terrorism. Please check thge indicators of Gaziantep about security, education, heath etc. You will realize that Gaziantep is one of the top developed and secure city of Turkey. Now please ask yourself; why is Antep developed but not it´s neighbours?

 

So your answer is; In order Antep is not a Kurdish city it is developed?

 

 

Ha ha ha

 

So you now accept that it is not a Kurdish city..

So, what made you Kurdish cities rebel then?

By any chance ´the wrong Kurdish policies? taking people´s basic rights away like language, identity etc?´ eh? 

 

 

84.       oeince
582 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 03:04 am

I did not say Antep is a city whose population mostly occurs by Kurdish people. I said its in the south east and a developed city.

 

I think ur anxiousness make you blind. You are not speaking to solve something. You just try to argue. I learned not to argue with blinds. Thats why i dont answer you.

85.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 03:11 am

 

Quoting oeince

I did not say Antep is a city whose population mostly occurs by Kurdish people. I said its in the south east and a developed city.

 

I think ur anxiousness make you blind. You are not speaking to solve something. You just try to argue. I learned not to argue with blinds. Thats why i dont answer you.

 

tell me one good reason why I should be anxious? lol

All I am telling you that it was not a wise idea to give that example..you could have given Izmir for example as comparision?

Actually, with that example, you have explained yourself what went wrong with the Kurds!!

It is very simple: if you deny people´s basic rights like we did to Kurds, people would rebel!!! (and people who tend to deny these things, always accuse the others as being terrorists)

That is the summary..

 

86.       oeince
582 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 03:27 am

You totally miss the point. What is more pathetic is you think that you say something logical.

 

Gaziantep is the best example in a thread which says " Terrorism is most harmful for the society living there" Also which say, "the society must stop to support terrosits bloody sakes"

 

So even Antep is the neighbour of those cities, in order the people there dont support terrorism, it is now more developed.

 

BTW according to your point of view, the girls who are forbidden to enter the university becouse of they wear scarfs has rights for rebel!

 

What a parochial! Killing people is not allowed for some people who think that their rights are restricted!

 

Do you want Turkey to be like Congo?

 

 

87.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 04:32 am

 

Quoting oeince

You totally miss the point. What is more pathetic is you think that you say something logical.

 

Gaziantep is the best example in a thread which says " Terrorism is most harmful for the society living there" Also which say, "the society must stop to support terrosits bloody sakes"

 

So even Antep is the neighbour of those cities, in order the people there dont support terrorism, it is now more developed.

 

BTW according to your point of view, the girls who are forbidden to enter the university becouse of they wear scarfs has rights for rebel!

 

What a parochial! Killing people is not allowed for some people who think that their rights are restricted!

 

Do you want Turkey to be like Congo?

 

 

 

I dont think I am the one missing the point here..

You are giving a name of city which is not  kurdish city by population..And you are saying that ´look they are developed because they are not supporting terrorism´ (you could have given Izmir as comparison in that respect really. It also show how far away you are from understanding what the problem is)

Then I am saying to you that yes..they are developed but the population of that city was not Kurdish and their basic rights were  not denied like its neighbour cities..

Go and tell Gaziantep people that ´ah actually, there are no Turks in this country and you are not Turks you were Dutch who visited Antep years ago and settled and Turkish is not allowed anymore, you all have to speak something else´

See if they are rebelling or not!!

I dont want Turkey to be Congo of course, but if we leave Turkey to be run by people who think ´suppressing people´s language/identity etc is a normal thing and if they object they are terrorists´, Turkey will split..

 

 

88.       oeince
582 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 04:52 am

I am sorry. You miss the point.

 

You know there is a significant arabic population in Antep, Turkish and Kurdish as well. So its a mix! There is a common point of them; they do not support terrorism. Thats why there is more developed.

 

Noone cares about anyones identity or language. The matter is terrorism.

 

 

 

 

89.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 05:05 am

 

Quoting oeince

I am sorry. You miss the point.

 

You know there is a significant arabic population in Antep, Turkish and Kurdish as well. So its a mix! There is a common point of them; they do not support terrorism. Thats why there is more developed.

 

Noone cares about anyones identity or language. The matter is terrorism.

 

 

 

 

 

There was no point to miss really..

Giving a non kurdish city as an example and saying that ´look how developed they are because they dont support terrorism was not a ´clever´ idea.

 

90.       scalpel
1472 posts
 31 May 2010 Mon 05:22 am

 

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

 

It is very simple: if you deny people´s basic rights like we did to Kurds, people would rebel!!! (and people who tend to deny these things, always accuse the others as being terrorists)

That is the summary..

 

 

 If only the problem were as simple as you make it out to be, then we could give them those basic rights back, and let the problem solve on its own. Wink

 

I have many Kurdish friends (of different political views, different religious sects, different lifestyles) like some of you do, that almost all of them see the problem different than you are describing. To whom should I believe? You or them? 

 

It would be difficult to believe that they are fighting, killing and being killed for extra 2 or 3 letters to add to their alphabet, or to take their "place names" back. They are probably not a good reason for them to die, are they?

 

And, please, stop making it look like all the Kurds support pkk and voted for DTP in the last elections. They got 5.7 % of the votes.(at least 15% of the voters are Kurd) This is because pkk cannot force the Kurdish voters living in western Turkey to vote for the political party they don´t want to vote for. Or maybe you think only 5.7% of the voters are Kurd!{#emotions_dlg.lol}

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