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1.       HelpJay
106 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 03:26 pm

I don't understand how much money -

Latest response -

Neyi anlamadin? Evet 6000 ytl gelinlik satin alacagim ve diger masraflar icin.

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I was told 6000 ytl is approx. $8450 us dollars ???

2.       Troya
13 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 03:41 pm

Quoting HelpJay:

I don't understand how much money -

Latest response -

Neyi anlamadin? Evet 6000 ytl gelinlik satin alacagim ve diger masraflar icin.

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I was told 6000 ytl is approx. $8450 us dollars ???


6000 ytl is 33,104 chinese yuen 2250 GBP 2000 DEM
by the way GALATASARAY IS CHAMPION AGAIN AND AGAIN!!

3.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 04:48 pm

Quoting HelpJay:

I don't understand how much money -

Latest response -

Neyi anlamadin? Evet 6000 ytl gelinlik satin alacagim ve diger masraflar icin.

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I was told 6000 ytl is approx. $8450 us dollars ???



No.. the amount in Dollars is always lower than the amount in Liras.. so 6000 ytl can never be 8450 dollars.

6,000.00 Turkey New Lira = 3,916.45 United States Dollars

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Neyi anlamadin? Evet 6000 ytl gelinlik satin alacagim ve diger masraflar icin.

What don't you understand? Yes, (with) 6000 ytl i will buy a wedding-gown and different necessary supplies.

??

4.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 04:48 pm

Quoting Troya:

6000 ytl is 33,104 chinese yuen 2250 GBP 2000 DEM
by the way GALATASARAY IS CHAMPION AGAIN AND AGAIN!!



We know that by now, Troya.

And HelpJay asked for Dollars, not other currencies.

5.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 04:49 pm

Quoting HelpJay:

I don't understand how much money -

Latest response -

Neyi anlamadin? Evet 6000 ytl gelinlik satin alacagim ve diger masraflar icin.

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I was told 6000 ytl is approx. $8450 us dollars ???


No, sorry, Helpjaj, I told you wrong,
6000 ytl is 4138 dollars (1 dollar = 1,45 ytl)

"What didn't you understand? Yes, 6000ytl, I am going to buy a bride dress and for the other expenses."

6.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 04:53 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



6,000.00 Turkey New Lira = 3,916.45 United States Dollars



Hey, delikızın, am I wrong or is there really something with calculations today?
Isn't 1 dollar is around 1,45 ytl?

Then, 6000/1,45= 4138

It was me who told him that 6000 was 8700, but I had calculated it the other way as 1dollar is 1,45 ytl and then saw my mistake.

7.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:01 pm

Quoting mltm:

Quoting Deli_kizin:



6,000.00 Turkey New Lira = 3,916.45 United States Dollars



Hey, delikızın, am I wrong or is there really something with calculations today?
Isn't 1 dollar is around 1,45 ytl?

Then, 6000/1,45= 4138

It was me who told him that 6000 was 8700, but I had calculated it the other way as 1dollar is 1,45 ytl and then saw my mistake.



Well i'm afraid to say anything about calculations anymore Because you know i'm horrible with maths.

But i just put it through a currencey converter which also said that:

1 TRY = 0.661639 USD 1 USD = 1.51140 TRY

So almost 1.45 yes.. but i think that those 6 cnts on an amount of 6000 make a difference? I dunnow ?

8.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:09 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:


Well i'm afraid to say anything about calculations anymore Because you know i'm horrible with maths.

But i just put it through a currencey converter which also said that:

1 TRY = 0.661639 USD 1 USD = 1.51140 TRY

So almost 1.45 yes.. but i think that those 6 cnts on an amount of 6000 make a difference? I dunnow ?



woww, ok, now I see it.
What's happening today with the currency? I just looked at it in the morning and it was 1,45, but now I look again and it has increased to 1,51?! Until a few days ago it was 1,38 and it was ver stable for a long time.
So, Helpjay, we cannot tell you a very accurate thing, because it's continously changing.

9.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:12 pm


AND 1 EURO IS NEARLY 2 YTL!!!
MAN, I'm going to pay my language school in euros this year, and what's happening to our lira!!?
anyone knows what's the reason of this sudden increase?

10.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:24 pm

I don't understand anything of economics, so i don't actually understand whether this is good or bad for the Lira

But i heard on the radio that this year Türkiye's tourist industry is having -60% bookings, compared to last year This is because of the people's fear for terroristic attacks and because of birdflu.

11.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:35 pm

Well, I'm not an economic expert either, but if the money of a country is losing its value, this is definitely not a good economic sign because your money becomes just a paper outside your country, but sometimes they cause a temporary fake decrease in the value intentionally for other reasons. It's a complex boring subject.Especially turkish economy is not easy to understand.
But, what I know is, now my school payment has increased 11% in one day for me.
I hope this is temporary, wouldn't want another crises...

12.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:38 pm

Quoting mltm:

But, what I know is, now my school payment has increased 11% in one day for me.
I hope this is temporary, wouldn't want another crises...



Oh because now you have to pay more Liras in order to get the right amount of Euros to pay for your course?

I have to pay to the course in Dollars, also such a weird thing. But last time, i paid the 150$ just in Euros, and once i'm there i'm gonan try if i can't just pay in Liras.

13.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:40 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



Oh because now you have to pay more Liras in order to get the right amount of Euros to pay for your course?

I have to pay to the course in Dollars, also such a weird thing. But last time, i paid the 150$ just in Euros, and once i'm there i'm gonan try if i can't just pay in Liras.


yes, it's exaclty the reason because our salary is in liras. and it's just the other way for you, now Türkiye is cheaper for you

14.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:43 pm

Quoting mltm:

yes, it's exaclty the reason because our salary is in liras. and it's just the other way for you, now Türkiye is cheaper for you



Hmm yeah.. till I start making Turkish money
But that day is pretty far from here

May i ask what you pay for your course? I suppose it's comparable to one acadamic year, the length of the course?

15.       HelpJay
106 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:45 pm

Everybody has been soooo helpful and sooooo funny

You all have made me laugh

Thank you all for the help

16.       Kadir37
0 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:51 pm

17.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:55 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



Hmm yeah.. till I start making Turkish money
But that day is pretty far from here

May i ask what you pay for your course? I suppose it's comparable to one acadamic year, the length of the course?


Hmm, it's for one semetre around 1800euro, but just for the course, the residence is not included.

18.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 05:57 pm

Quoting Kadir37:

I can give 100 $


Thanks Kadir
I cannot see the pic.
100$ isn't bad, but 1000 is much better for sure

19.       Kadir37
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 15 May 2006 Mon 06:03 pm

20.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:04 pm

Quoting mltm:

Hmm, it's for one semetre around 1800euro, but just for the course, the residence is not included.



If one semester equals a period from september - june (environ...).. then it's quite normal for West Europe college-fees. For me indeed, Türkiye is much cheaper. For one year of education here i would have to pay about 2000 euros, and this course is around 900

I'm still not sure whether i'll offer my parents to pay the course myself or to pay a laptop myself
But seeing the fact that Ramayan is giving them away for free..

21.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:10 pm

Quoting Kadir37:





ohh, now I see.
But isn't it a bit xxx

22.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:14 pm

Quoting mltm:

ohh, now I see.
But isn't it a bit xxx




Hahahah nicely put


Yes i think it is.

23.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:14 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



If one semester equals a period from september - june (environ...).. then it's quite normal for West Europe college-fees. For me indeed, Türkiye is much cheaper. For one year of education here i would have to pay about 2000 euros, and this course is around 900

I'm still not sure whether i'll offer my parents to pay the course myself or to pay a laptop myself
But seeing the fact that Ramayan is giving them away for free..


No, one semester is from september to february and there're holidays.
Yes, yours is quite cheap.
Well, as I'm not working, my parents are going to pay all , but I'll get a residence aid from the French government, and I'm planning to have a part-time job there, since I cannot live like a parasite all my life

24.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:18 pm

Quoting mltm:

No, one semester is from september to february and there're holidays.
Yes, yours is quite cheap.
Well, as I'm not working, my parents are going to pay all , but I'll get a residence aid from the French government, and I'm planning to have a part-time job there, since I cannot live as a parasite all my life



Ohh, yeah that's really expensive then! But i always think like this: when you pay a high amount of money for something you really want, that amount only hurts the 3 seconds that you pay it, and once you get in return what you want so much, you already forgot how expensive it was

Wow that's quite 'generous', that they give residence-aid in France!! I won't get it, I don't really mind that Turkey isn't giving me any, they have enough other thigns to spend their money on i'd say, but i can't stand that Dutch government doesn't wanna pay my scolarship. In Holland i'd get 300euros a month from government for university next year. And now they give me nothign because Turkey is not yet on their list But maybe in 2 years will be

I'm sure a part-time job will be nice and definitely increase your daily knowledge on French! I'm quite dissapointed i can't work in Turkey, part-time, Kadir wouldn't let me, government dóesn't let me anyway.

25.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:33 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:


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And it's one of the cheapest ones in France. And your way of thinking is right, once you get the thing you want very much, you forget its price, but I think this one is going to take a bit more than 3 seconds But I think the money you pay for education and self development is worth the money you pay. For what we're saving our money then, just for cars or houses??
And France is good for aids, they pay more than half of the rent of any french citizen (not the foreigns..)
And Holland is not bad either, 300 per month is very good. If Turkey were in the EU, they would pay it as well then?
I wonder if you can work as a EU citizen in any EU country? The fact that Turkey is not in EU yet makes all the problem for you I guess

26.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:42 pm

Quoting mltm:


And it's one of the cheapest ones in France. And your way of thinking is right, once you get the thing you want very much, you forget its price, but I think this one is going to take a bit more than 3 seconds But I think the money you pay for education and self development is worth the money you pay. For what we're saving our money then, just for cars or houses??
And France is good for aids, they pay more than half of the rent of any french citizen (not the foreigns..)
And Holland is not bad either, 300 per month is very good. If Turkey were in the EU, they would pay it as well then?
I wonder if you can work as a EU citizen in any EU country? The fact that Turkey is not in EU yet makes all the problem for you I guess



yes, well 300 euros was approximately, i think it should be around 280, but well.. that's 300 But it's actually not that much.. because you can barely pay your rent with it. So if it doesn't even cover all your rent, then how are you gonna eat, pay your study, get dressed etc.. Many students in Holland complain about the price of studentlife.

Well the problem is that, i'm gonna do my entire study in Türkiye. If i would only do a master or one year there in an Erasmus programme, i would be connected to a Dutch uni and therefore have right to get the scolarship. But i won't be connected to Holland in educational ways anymore, so they won't pay for me. But recently they have made a list, because they noticed many students wnat to study abroad entirely. Unfortunately, Turkey is not in their list because the education-level of Turkish unviersities, doesn't match Dutch standards. But I read they might make a new rule: You must apply to a dutch organisation for education with your study and university in Turkey, and they will check if their level is up to standard, and if it is, you will still get a little scoralship. But that will start in 2007 i guess. I've been told EGE is a good unviersity, so i hope i stand a chance!

27.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 06:44 pm

Quoting mltm:

I wonder if you can work as a EU citizen in any EU country? The fact that Turkey is not in EU yet makes all the problem for you I guess



Yes true, if Türkiye was in EU, it would all be a lot easier. Also, i think Holland will have more confidence in Turkey once it is joining, which will make agreements, acceptances etc easier for all sorts of things.

What do you mean with being a EU citizen and being able to work in any EU country?

28.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 07:03 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:


What do you mean with being a EU citizen and being able to work in any EU country?


I mean, can you just go and work in France, Italy, Germany etc. just like in your country?

29.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 07:08 pm

Quoting mltm:

Quoting Deli_kizin:


What do you mean with being a EU citizen and being able to work in any EU country?


I mean, can you just go and work in France, Italy, Germany etc. just like in your country?



Hmm i actually don't even know, but i guess so. I was asked for a summerjob in Italy once. And when i go on holiday in the EU, i never need a visa. But i guess there is more to than just that. Because of taxes and insurrances and so forth.

30.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 07:14 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:


Well the problem is that, i'm gonna do my entire study in Türkiye. If i would only do a master or one year there in an Erasmus programme, i would be connected to a Dutch uni and therefore have right to get the scolarship. But i won't be connected to Holland in educational ways anymore, so they won't pay for me. But recently they have made a list, because they noticed many students wnat to study abroad entirely. Unfortunately, Turkey is not in their list because the education-level of Turkish unviersities, doesn't match Dutch standards. But I read they might make a new rule: You must apply to a dutch organisation for education with your study and university in Turkey, and they will check if their level is up to standard, and if it is, you will still get a little scoralship. But that will start in 2007 i guess. I've been told EGE is a good unviersity, so i hope i stand a chance!


Yes, not all the Turkish universities are the same. There're universities in which the education standards are as high as the ones in Europe. And, you can apply in 2007 then, because as you heard, Ege Üniv. is a high quality university.
In Turkey,you can get a scolarship for outside studies just if you have a very very high mark and if you can't afford it.
And maybe for now your government is right on their side, because they say: "you prefer going to do your study in a country where the education level is lower, and so it's your dumbness and we cannot afford it"

31.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 07:53 pm

Quoting mltm:

And maybe for now your government is right on their side, because they say: "you prefer going to do your study in a country where the education level is lower, and so it's your dumbness and we cannot afford it"



Ok now you just made me wanna explain why, in case of a language/literature study in the country where that language is native, i think government is very wrong

Because language and literature is more than an academic level. Actually Dutch government is saying: In Holland you will learn Turkish and Turkish literature better than in Turkey. Maybe the academic level and analysis will be higher in Holland. But a language is way more than that. A book is not just a story. You must breath the culture in order to understand every aspect. You must be able to place the book in a time-frame and if it's a modern book, that time-frame doesn't exist yet. Therefore the only way to udnerstand it, is to live it. So I think the best way, is to do it in the country where that language is officially spoken. No matter that the education is a bit lower.

But i get your point and you're quite right about it. Becuase of what use am i to holland if i study something that is worth less in my own country? But who cares, right now i'm not really planning to go back

About Ege, is there a site or a list which rates Turkish Universities?

32.       mltm
3690 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 08:29 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:



Ok now you just made me wanna explain why, in case of a language/literature study in the country where that language is native, i think government is very wrong

Because language and literature is more than an academic level. Actually Dutch government is saying: In Holland you will learn Turkish and Turkish literature better than in Turkey. Maybe the academic level and analysis will be higher in Holland. But a language is way more than that. A book is not just a story. You must breath the culture in order to understand every aspect. You must be able to place the book in a time-frame and if it's a modern book, that time-frame doesn't exist yet. Therefore the only way to udnerstand it, is to live it. So I think the best way, is to do it in the country where that language is officially spoken. No matter that the education is a bit lower.

But i get your point and you're quite right about it. Becuase of what use am i to holland if i study something that is worth less in my own country? But who cares, right now i'm not really planning to go back

About Ege, is there a site or a list which rates Turkish Universities?


I also get your point. You're completely right. Your situation is very special because you are going to study Turkish Literature, but I don't know whether governments can be so sensitive and look at it in this particular way.
Sometimes, I see such lists in the internet, but ccan't find it right now writing "türkiye'nin en iyi üniversiteleri", but the accurate lists depends on the areas. Forexample for engineering, for medicine, for law etc. and even so sometimes people don't agree on it. But what's for sure is, there're some best universities among which're ODTÜ, Boğaziçi, Bilkent, İTÜ etc. Usually best ones are in the big cities. İzmir universities are also good, but not at the top, but it's Turkish Literature and I don't know in turkish literature Ege Üniversite is where.

33.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 15 May 2006 Mon 09:14 pm

Quoting mltm:

I also get your point. You're completely right. Your situation is very special because you are going to study Turkish Literature, but I don't know whether governments can be so sensitive and look at it in this particular way.
Sometimes, I see such lists in the internet, but ccan't find it right now writing "türkiye'nin en iyi üniversiteleri", but the accurate lists depends on the areas. Forexample for engineering, for medicine, for law etc. and even so sometimes people don't agree on it. But what's for sure is, there're some best universities among which're ODTÜ, Boğaziçi, Bilkent, İTÜ etc. Usually best ones are in the big cities. İzmir universities are also good, but not at the top, but it's Turkish Literature and I don't know in turkish literature Ege Üniversite is where.



Hmm ok thanks I would not choose another university anyway

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