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Absurd news from Turkie
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13 Oct 2010 Wed 08:40 am |
“Ayakta bevletmek dinimizce uygun değil” diyerek cami tuvaletlerindeki pisuvarları söktürmesiyle gündeme gelen eski OrduValisi Ali Kaban, Başbakan’a danışman oldu.
Translation:
The former governor of Ordu, Ali Kaban has been appointed as a consultant to Turkish PM Tayyip Erdoğan. Kaban is remembered with his word about urinals and removing them from WCs of Mosques in Ordu.
He had said:
"It´s not acceptable according to our religion to pee on foot"!
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13 Oct 2010 Wed 07:59 pm |
Isn´t it something similar to The Bachelor or whatever the programme is called here? I wonder how ok it would be for an American contestant to say she wouldn´t want to meet an Afro-American candidate in the States
It would be viewed in the media as being extremely racist. People would probably talk about how racist this woman is. She would be ostrasized from polite society but in the back of some American´s minds the thought would be, "I can see what she means." Unfortunately, racism is something we like to think we are over, but we still have a lot of issues. Thank goodness, seeing/living amoung mixed couples is becoming a more accepted thing. I can tell you from experience that when some people find out that my husband is Muslim, there is a palpable and uncomfortable feeling that takes over the room. I am fortunate to come from a very racially, ethnically, and religiously mixed family so I get a lot of support from everyone...but society at large is still a bit weird about it.
In any case, the concept of the show is very strange, but it raised a good talking point!
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13 Oct 2010 Wed 08:09 pm |
Erdogan has over 350,000 Facebook friends, whereas Ahmadinejad only 43,000
October 13, 2010 | 13:40
Israeli Walla web portal decided to check popularity of regional leaders on Facebook social networking website.
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan tops the standings with a list of 369107 friends. He became very popular after he openly adopted anti-Israeli position.
The second is Jordan king Abdullah II. He does not have his own profile but his fan page unites about 87,000 people, while Lebanese President Michel Suleiman – 86,000.
President of Syria Bashar al-Assad (unlike his spouse Asma) also does not have his profile but fan page features 67,000 people. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has 43,077 friends on Facebook, whereas the leader of Iranian opposition Mir-Hossein Mousavi – 140,000.
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has official profile on Facebook with 47,000 friends.
source: here
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13 Oct 2010 Wed 08:33 pm |
Hahaha...my President has more friends than your President!
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 03:01 am |
If we consider this as a racist reaction then we must put a label on almost any woman I have known so far. Women are selective by nature. We expect her to have the final say about the man to enter her life. They have a huge array of criteria which entails in most cases that a man to be rich, powerful, influential, handsome -at least by the standards of the social group they share. Looking back in time, I remember girls rejecting me because I have a big head, am not quite the type she finds attractive that I did not have the nice and expensive car or because I did not have the money to afford the life she was after. Some women even found me a bit too fair skinned to their taste even when there was no talk of relationship. I would say most women analyze you from perspectives that you normally never give a thought about. (There is a big contrast here. We men have a certain way to look at a woman and the only thing that changes is the order of them They often want someone who could take care of them.
So, I don´t think that woman is a racist. She has a right to say no to a man from Silopi if she so desires. The guy may be heart-broken but anyone wishing to meet a woman must naturally be prepared for an anticlimax. If this happens before the TV audience, that person must also be prepared for being scandalized. If you are watching or raving about these programs, you are realizing the expectations of its producers. Some guys are watching these programs in order to develop their marketing strategies.Their audience forms the largest target group for many key sectors. That is why we have these stupid programs. The wise guys use these show to gather info on what is going on in their quarters, what is fashion and what is not.
Unfortunately, racism is something we like to think we are over, but we still have a lot of issues.
Edited (10/14/2010) by vineyards
[Numerous mistakes, omissions etc.]
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 03:36 am |
I agree about people making some deliberate choices about their partners and I don´t find it racist that somebody does not date outside their race (works both ways) or religion. I find it ridiculous that someone´s preferences in choosing a partner should be subject to discussion. If I don´t date men shorter than me or men with hairy backs, am I a heightist or a hairist? If we´re free to be fussy, why can´t race, nationality, accent or the number of limbs be sufficient reasons to turn somebody down? Doesn´t the R word make us all hypocrites? If I find black people as sexually appealing as ginger-haired men, why is it ok for me to say the latter but the former makes me racist?
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 10:12 am |
It would be viewed in the media as being extremely racist. People would probably talk about how racist this woman is. She would be ostrasized from polite society but in the back of some American´s minds the thought would be, "I can see what she means." Unfortunately, racism is something we like to think we are over, but we still have a lot of issues. Thank goodness, seeing/living amoung mixed couples is becoming a more accepted thing. I can tell you from experience that when some people find out that my husband is Muslim, there is a palpable and uncomfortable feeling that takes over the room. I am fortunate to come from a very racially, ethnically, and religiously mixed family so I get a lot of support from everyone...but society at large is still a bit weird about it.
In any case, the concept of the show is very strange, but it raised a good talking point!
Of course it is racism..Sheer racism.. If you dont call that girl racist, who will you call a racist?
She is as racist as the ones who give you that weird feeling when they learn you are married to a Turk and muslim..Possibly more actually..
The funny thing is that many still wont see her as racist. That is what I was trying to say that ´many things/ many sayings etc are considered as normal´. That girl wont accept the fact that she is racist. Years ago my father was in shock when I told him that I could marry a Kurd.. My uncle still does not hide his resentment about the fact his son got married to a Kurdish Alevite girl and he still semi jokes that they have ´tails´.
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 12:09 pm |
The salary of Guus Hiddink (the current coach of Turkish National football team) will be questionned in TBMM (Turkish National Assembly). Similarly the salary of previous coach Fatih Terim had also been discussed in TBMM. The questionaire given by Ali Uzunırmak has questions like "What is the current salary of Hiddink?", "Why is it kept as a secret?", "Did he really put a condition in his contrat for it not to be disclosed?".
source: here
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 01:11 pm |
Me as Dutch heard an interview with Mr.Guus and it went as follows:
The journalist´: ´How do you like it so far working and living in Turkey do you feel at home?
GH:´´ Smile, yes, I feel very much at home with the players and the team´.
Journalist;"How do you experience the football culture in Turkey? ´
GH;"Smile... silence. Well, like everything in Turkey it is taken with Emotion, emotion and emotion... big smile.. ´.
Whichh is big contrast for Dutch especially for Mr Guus as he is from Eastern part of Netherlands.
When a team is not performing well it is always blamed to the coach, when the team performance well it is the work of the players
Why do the Turks care so much about qualification for EuropeanChampionShip if they don´t see themselves as Europeans and most don´t want to be part of Europe???!!!
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 01:36 pm |
Guus Hiddink is a very good coach. But you also need a good team and some luck to do well. He inspires players, and did very well with Australia in the 2006 World Cup. Unfortunately Australian Football could not afford to pay him what he expected after this success, and he left. He was also dropped from Fenerbahçe years ago, and when you pay someone a lot of money you expect results. Luckily for Guus he always finds another country that is happy to pay him. Hopefully Turkey will regain their confidence and start winning again.
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14 Oct 2010 Thu 04:08 pm |
If we consider this as a racist reaction then we must put a label on almost any woman I have known so far. Women are selective by nature. We expect her to have the final say about the man to enter her life. They have a huge array of criteria which entails in most cases that a man to be rich, powerful, influential, handsome -at least by the standards of the social group they share. Looking back in time, I remember girls rejecting me because I have a big head, am not quite the type she finds attractive that I did not have the nice and expensive car or because I did not have the money to afford the life she was after. Some women even found me a bit too fair skinned to their taste even when there was no talk of relationship. I would say most women analyze you from perspectives that you normally never give a thought about. (There is a big contrast here. We men have a certain way to look at a woman and the only thing that changes is the order of them They often want someone who could take care of them.
So, I don´t think that woman is a racist. She has a right to say no to a man from Silopi if she so desires. The guy may be heart-broken but anyone wishing to meet a woman must naturally be prepared for an anticlimax. If this happens before the TV audience, that person must also be prepared for being scandalized. If you are watching or raving about these programs, you are realizing the expectations of its producers. Some guys are watching these programs in order to develop their marketing strategies.Their audience forms the largest target group for many key sectors. That is why we have these stupid programs. The wise guys use these show to gather info on what is going on in their quarters, what is fashion and what is not.
Unfortunately, racism is something we like to think we are over, but we still have a lot of issues.
I was commenting on Daydreamers post and not really on the original post. However, I do agree that women have certain criteria when it comes to picking a mate....however, aren´t men a bit selective as well? For example, I think some men are overly concerned about the size of a woman´s mammory organs rather than other attributes like her intelligence. TV programs like this one are just an underscore of how vein and superficial our cultures have become.
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