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20.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 14 Oct 2010 Thu 04:08 pm

 

Quoting vineyards

If we consider this as a racist reaction then we must put a label on almost any woman I have known so far. Women are selective by nature. We expect her to have the final say about the man to enter her life. They have a huge array of criteria which entails in most cases that a man to be rich, powerful, influential, handsome -at least by the standards of the social group they share. Looking back in time, I remember girls rejecting me because I have a big head, am not quite the type she finds attractive that I did not have the nice and expensive car or because I did not have the money to afford the life she was after. Some women even found me a bit too fair skinned to their taste even when there was no talk of relationship. I would say most women analyze you from perspectives that you normally never give a thought about. (There is a big contrast here. We men have a certain way to look at a woman and the only thing that changes is the order of them They often want someone who could take care of them. 

So, I don´t think that woman is a racist. She has a right to say no to a man from Silopi if she so desires. The guy may be heart-broken but anyone wishing to meet a woman must naturally be prepared for an anticlimax. If this happens before the TV audience, that person must also be prepared for being scandalized. If you are watching or raving about these programs, you are realizing the expectations of its producers. Some guys are watching these programs in order to develop their marketing strategies.Their audience forms the largest target group for many key {#emotions_dlg.scared}sectors. That is why we have these stupid programs. The wise guys use these show to gather info on what is going on in their quarters, what is fashion and what is not. 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 Unfortunately, racism is something we like to think we are over, but we still have a lot of issues. 

 

 

 

 I was commenting on Daydreamers post and not really on the original post.  However, I do agree that women have certain criteria when it comes to picking a mate....however, aren´t men a bit selective as well?  For example, I think some men are overly concerned about the size of a woman´s mammory organs rather than other attributes like her intelligence.  TV programs like this one are just an underscore of how vein and superficial our cultures have become.   

21.       alameda
3499 posts
 14 Oct 2010 Thu 11:45 pm

True, but this sounds like the Bachelorette, Bachelor shows here.  I wonder if people really take them seriously? ....ugh...{#emotions_dlg.head_bang} They put them in fantastic places with fantasy dates....I saw one of them once... it seemed like a pretty sad situation. I think the winners get a million $...so what is the motivation?

Really, it is just a cheap way of having a show, you don´t have to pay for actors and a lot of union issues are avoided.

Quoting TheAenigma

 The most absurd thing about this post is that such a TV show exists!!! {#emotions_dlg.puking}

 

 

 

22.       alameda
3499 posts
 14 Oct 2010 Thu 11:57 pm

 I´ve believe it´s actually the hips/buttocks/pelvis that causes the spark in the charts when scientists actually have researched the subject of male attraction to females.

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 I was commenting on Daydreamers post and not really on the original post.  However, I do agree that women have certain criteria when it comes to picking a mate....however, aren´t men a bit selective as well?  For example, I think some men are overly concerned about the size of a woman´s mammory organs rather than other attributes like her intelligence.  TV programs like this one are just an underscore of how vein and superficial our cultures have become. 

 

 

23.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 12:09 am

 It probably would not be mentioned, although it would probably be a reason. She/he would find some other reason to eliminate those whose race or ethnicity they aren´t attracted to.

Attraction is a subtle almost magical thing. We really have little control, in any, of who we are attracted to. An odour, movement, sound of the voice or some other thing can be a complete turn off, even though other attributes are in line and we think we "should" like the other person. In reality, they can be found absolutely revolting when in the flesh meetings are conducted.

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Isn´t it something similar to The Bachelor or whatever the programme is called here? I wonder how ok it would be for an American contestant to say she wouldn´t want to meet an Afro-American candidate in the States

 

 

24.       si++
3785 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 10:27 am

Turkish State Minister calls Christians “gavur”

 

The Chair of the Syriac Culture Association Yuhanna Aktas stated Turkish State Minister Faruk Celik should apologize to Christians for calling them gavur (an offensive ethnic slur used by Muslims in Turkey to describe all who are non-Muslim) in one of the TV programs several days ago.

Aktas sharply criticized Turkish Minister’s cynical statement, saying Celik insulted Christianity and should apologize to all Christians in Turkey.

This irresponsible statement proves what the Turkish Minister thinks of non-Muslims in Turkey. We fiercely criticize his attitude,” Aktas stressed.

 

source: here

25.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 03:26 pm

From my bygone university years I remember how it is possible to find out that there is simply no chemistry between two person who fancy each other before going to the bedroom for purposes other than decoration. Before that experience, you´d think, you could spend your life with that person and after it you add "as a dear friend, of course."

Quoting alameda

 It probably would not be mentioned, although it would probably be a reason. She/he would find some other reason to eliminate those whose race or ethnicity they aren´t attracted to.

Attraction is a subtle almost magical thing. We really have little control, in any, of who we are attracted to. An odour, movement, sound of the voice or some other thing can be a complete turn off, even though other attributes are in line and we think we "should" like the other person. In reality, they can be found absolutely revolting when in the flesh meetings are conducted.

 

 

 

 

 

26.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 04:10 pm

 

Quoting si++

Turkish State Minister calls Christians “gavur”

 

The Chair of the Syriac Culture Association Yuhanna Aktas stated Turkish State Minister Faruk Celik should apologize to Christians for calling them gavur (an offensive ethnic slur used by Muslims in Turkey to describe all who are non-Muslim) in one of the TV programs several days ago.

Aktas sharply criticized Turkish Minister’s cynical statement, saying Celik insulted Christianity and should apologize to all Christians in Turkey.

This irresponsible statement proves what the Turkish Minister thinks of non-Muslims in Turkey. We fiercely criticize his attitude,” Aktas stressed.

 

source: here

 

 

And if he is made to apologize, does that mean he will all of a sudden stop hating Non-Muslims?  I doubt it!  {#emotions_dlg.get_you} Just add his name to the list of haters!  Gosh, I hate haters!!!{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

27.       AlphaF
5677 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 04:57 pm

 

Quoting Elisabeth

 

 

 

And if he is made to apologize, does that mean he will all of a sudden stop hating Non-Muslims?  I doubt it!  {#emotions_dlg.get_you} Just add his name to the list of haters!  Gosh, I hate haters!!!{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}

"Gavur" means "non-moslem" and differs from "kafir" which means "infidel".

Whether or not an apology is required, after calling a "non-moslem" person, non-moslem is for non-moslems to decide...

PLEASE HELP CREATE A NEW TURKISH WORD TO COLLECTIVELY DESCRIBE PERSONS FAITHFUL TO SOME RELIGION, EXCEPT ISLAM.

ONCE THE NEW WORD IS AGREED UPON, THE WORD "GAVUR" WILL BE PERMANENTLY ERADICATED FROM TURKISH LANGUAGE.

{#emotions_dlg.alcoholics}



Edited (10/15/2010) by AlphaF

28.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 05:53 pm

TDK dictionary sites a Persian root word gavur and an Arabic one for kafir. The similarity between these two words may indicate it being a loan word for either of these two languages. We seem to have imported both versions. Both words have more or less the same meaning. The word Kufr in Arabic means blasphemy and kafir is the one who commits blasphemy. The plural küffar also exists as a loan word in our language. Until quite recently, these words were freely used to describe non-muslims. It was normal for the past statesmen and historians to use them. Somewhere in between, the politically correct "gayri-müslüm" was introduced. This one is still in use and therefore there is no need to invent a new word.

As a general information for word inventors, words are not prescribed by a group of people for public use. Instead, languages evolve in their own natural course. Don´t think you are not contributing to your mother tongue. Your very existence is instrumental in eroding certain uses and paving the path for novelties which must take place in a relatively longer period of time. The so called prescriptive approach belongs to the past. Curiously, language reformers usually flourished at the times of dictators. In one example, Adolf Hitler issued a command for the German linguists to gather evidence to establish the German language as the proto-language mentioned in the Bible as bestowed upon man by God which was altered when they attempted to build the Tower of Babel to reach heaven. 

 

29.       missclimpson
2 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 06:24 pm

Since Turks and Kurds are the same race, this is hardly racism. Prejudice is a more accurate word.

Surely a woman has a right to decide who she wants to marry. How many women from metropolitan areas want to marry men from backwaters and move there with them. Not many, I think. I would never want to marry a Texan and move there!! The climate alone would kill me.



Edited (10/15/2010) by missclimpson [typo]

30.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 15 Oct 2010 Fri 06:37 pm

 

Quoting missclimpson

Since Turks and Kurds are the same race, this is hardly racism. Prejudice is a more accurate word.

Surely a woman has a right to decide who she wants to marry. How many women from metropolitan areas want to marry men from backwaters and move there with them. Not many, I think. I would never want to marry a Texan and move there!! The climate alone would kill me.

 Well, since I live in Texas, I feel a bit insulted{#emotions_dlg.lol_fast}...so I will let some of our Turkish members tell you about the differences between Turks and Kurds.  Welcome to TC...the welcome wagon should be around shortly!  {#emotions_dlg.stoneage}

 

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