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1.       alyaa
115 posts
 20 Feb 2005 Sun 12:29 pm

hi every one

i am arabic and i like turkish language after long prossess of learning turkish i discoverd that there r many words which r largely used in both languages i mean arabic and turkish.
i will start give words and decide ,if i can, whts its origion؟ arabic or turkish.

i wish every body participate with this idea.
many thanks.

2.       Xesc
64 posts
 20 Feb 2005 Sun 05:06 pm

Yes, it's a great idea!

Turkish has a big amount of words borrowed from persian and arabic, because they were the culture, law and religion languages in Ottoman times.

I had time ago an idea alike; I have a little basic dictionary, and i wanted to find the origins of all words, thus, you could know in which matters the different cultures influenced in turkish culture. I don't speak arabic, but, I can guess which words ar arabic.

Also, Turkish uses arabic sentences, such bismillah, vallahi, insallah.

But, there are two expresions or sentences very used that I wanna know it's origins, "aman" and "acaba", are they arabic?

tesekkür ederim

3.       alyaa
115 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 02:49 pm

high xesc,

for acaba i can assure u that its origion is arabic

but about aman i dont know????

4.       alyaa
115 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 03:24 pm

another word is:

sabr= patient
this word has an arabic origion but used in turkish widely

5.       alyaa
115 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 03:29 pm

another word

imkan or momkun
these tow words has an arabic origion but also used in turkis we all know ibrahim's song imkani yok ayrilmanim imkani yok!!

6.       alyaa
115 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 03:34 pm

the word

care=solution

this is a turkish word but used in arbic but not the formal language

7.       ali
70 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 04:19 pm

I would not say that "care" is Turkish. Most probably it's origin is in Persian language, Farsi.

8.       ali
70 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 04:19 pm

I would not say that "care" is Turkish. Most probably it's origin is in Persian language, Farsi.

9.       Xesc
64 posts
 22 Feb 2005 Tue 07:37 pm

Vowel harmony it's a good system in order to view if a word is original turkish or not.

In ancient Turkish all the words had vowel harmony (it's, a word only could have soft vowels or hard vowels, but never mixed), it's bcause of this that in actually Turkish the sufixes must be in harmony with the last vowel.

Thus, if a Turkish word had hard and soft vowels, as care, mübarek, liman, vilayet, divane, cerrah...etc we can state that this word isn't original turkish; (but, if we have a word with soft or hard vowels exclusively it's another matter). Selamlar!

10.       alyaa
115 posts
 23 Feb 2005 Wed 01:45 pm

hi ali

r u sure that care has persian origion if it is so i am realy sory i didn't know
i wish if u keep on telling such thing if something like that happened again.

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