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help please mates
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 05:06 pm |
Hi classmates,
I need your help badly. My Greek Cypriot friends are coming to meet me. I have to dare to tell this news to my husband. He and these people had a longgggg fight before I left Cyprus. I have to say please to him innumerable times I think, but anyway here is my mail -
Dear Husband,
Niki and Mario are coming to Turkey next week. Niki mailed me yesterday. You will also be here by that time so please I am requesting you…can I invite her to our home? Please don’t be angry at me, let’s forget the past shall we? I know what you will say but please try to forget it for 15 minutes at least. Please don’t forget that Niki’s family and her friends helped me a lot in my bad period when I was in Larnaca. I know you people can’t stay in a same room with each other peacefully even for a minute but please they just wish to see our children. She said that they will be with us only for 10-15 minutes and then they will go. Please please say yes for me…for me please!
I am waiting for your reply eagerly. Please think about this calmly. Dont be upset. Without your permission I won't decide anything with them.
Lots of love…Geeta, Erol, Berk, Aygül
Please friends can anyone help me?
Regards
Geeta
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 07:52 pm |
Are you looking for translation help or advice? I think that's why nobody has responded yet. It's not clear from your message what you're asking help for.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 07:53 pm |
Well - she has posted it in the translation forum. Not that anyone bothers to check which forum they are in these days....
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 07:54 pm |
True I was confused aswell.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 07:56 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 07:57 pm |
I dont think its confusing - its posted in the translation forum and its a letter to her husband. Therefore - it needs translating!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:08 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:10 pm |
I know this in translations, but the situation is intriguing. If I was married, and my wife was inviting people into my home that I felt had disrespected me in the past without an apology, I would be angry with my wife. I'm stubborn I know, but I also have principle.
Am I too hard headed?
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:14 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:21 pm |
But she didn't invite them, they will come to the city she is staying in and asked to visit her,to see kids,they even said it will only be for 10 or 15 minutes,
Lets hope her husband can hold his anger for this time and will give her permission ,
Also,if i were you,i wouldn't allow them to come as long as my husband don't love them,and will only keep in touch by mails and pictures of the kids with husband approval too.
But i believe you just asking for translation not advice,i hope someone step and do it,i afraid if i do and make any mistake,so things would be worse,
You need someone to translate it using kind words make him agree !
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:27 pm |
Quoting CANLI: Lets hope her husband can hold his anger for this time and will give her permission |
Ouh! CANLI!!! You know I always respect your views, Egyptian Princess, but please!!! I would NEVER ask permission - is she a slave?
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:36 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:46 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Well - she has posted it in the translation forum. Not that anyone bothers to check which forum they are in these days....  |
People miss post all the time. Which is why I asked her to clarify. Not that I can translate, but letters longer than this have been posted and been translated in shorter amounts of time. So, obviously I wasn't the only one 'confused'. But thank you for pointing out the small detail I am asking clarification for.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:49 pm |
Can someone just please translate for her!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:51 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting CANLI: Lets hope her husband can hold his anger for this time and will give her permission |
Ouh! CANLI!!! You know I always respect your views, Egyptian Princess, but please!!! I would NEVER ask permission - is she a slave? |
You know I had to respond to this one, because I agree with Aenigma. It's one of those days we are agreeing with eachother, I feel it in the air. Sorry, no translation. Canli, I think you should attempt it, though.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:53 pm |
I agree with Keith and Susie K.
I wouldn't bring anybody into my home that would cause tension. I mean friends are great, but you live with your husband!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:56 pm |
EVET!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:57 pm |
Quoting aenigma x: Quoting CANLI: Lets hope her husband can hold his anger for this time and will give her permission |
Ouh! CANLI!!! You know I always respect your views, Egyptian Princess, but please!!! I would NEVER ask permission - is she a slave? |
Ohh,aenigma,
You are so sweet
But,she must really have his permission to allow people to come to their home,
She cann't just bring them in without his approval ?!
İts not a matter of slavery,as it is a matter of respect,
As he too cann't invite anyone to their home without her permission,that makes him her slave ?!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:57 pm |
Quoting teaschip: You know I had to respond to this one, because I agree with Aenigma. It's one of those days we are agreeing with eachother, I feel it in the air. |
Yes TC - it seems to happen on the last Tuesday of every month I notice, but only when the month ends with an 'R' - so at least we have a few days during the winter to agree
What is even more worrying is that I found myself agreeing with Rain today too
What next? Erdinc????
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:57 pm |
And this goes for men too. You have to respect your wife's wishes on who you bring home too. To keep the peace they should meet somewhere else, where they can sit and visit for a while, while not offending her husband's pride.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:59 pm |
Tabiki
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 08:59 pm |
Quoting CANLI: İts not a matter of slavery,as it is a matter of respect,
As he too cann't invite anyone to their home without her permission,that makes him her slave ?!
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Ouh! That's ok then
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:03 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:06 pm |
Quoting KeithL: And this goes for men too. You have to respect your wife's wishes on who you bring home too. To keep the peace they should meet somewhere else, where they can sit and visit for a while, while not offending her husband's pride. |
Just a thought since this is her house too, why doesn't her huband leave for awhile, so she could visit with her friend. I can't imagine telling my friend, Oh sorry I can't visit with you and your children for 15 minutes because my husband despises you. But we could meet at a restaurant. Sometimes we have to compromise our own feelings for our partners. It sounds to me like this is very important for her.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:11 pm |
Difficult çok Zor
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:11 pm |
But her friends don't like her husband as well,and they had fight together before too,as she said,
So i guess that is kind of complicated thing,
But,its both their home as you said,so how can her friends come to her home,and her husband home and they hate him,and he hate them too,
İt is kind of hard stiuation tho ... :-S
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:16 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:22 pm |
yes,maybe they would do too,or maybe they want to do so too,'no offense geeta,we just discussing'
Just take care they don't try to piss him off,specially they would be in his home,and he won't be able to reply on them if they did,
My heart with you, specially for later when they leave from your home !
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:22 pm |
Quoting CANLI:
But her friends don't like her husband as well,and they had fight together before too,as she said,
So i guess that is kind of complicated thing,
But,its both their home as you said,so how can her friends come to her home,and her husband home and they hate him,and he hate them too,
İt is kind of hard stiuation tho ... :-S |
Yes, I'm sorry, I'm more for meeting at a cafe then bringing problems into the home. Besides it's a mutual dislike. So her friend knows the situation too. I just wouldn't do it. Nor would I ask a man who pays for half, all or nothing for a place that he calls 'home' to leave it. I also would have a problem with any friend who would come to my home and argue with my husband. I would think they would have enough respect for me as their friend to leave the situation and just avoid my husband's presence...they wouldn't ask to come over but already suggest meeting me in another place..i.e. their hotel, to save me stress and agony.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:23 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:30 pm |
I wish I could translate the letter and help this girl, but unfortunately the only thing I can do, is add my comment.
I agree with Teaschip and Aenigma. This girl has the right to invite her friends home. Of course she has to inform her husband, especially as he dislikes them so much, but I think he should compromize and leave home for half an hour, if he doesnt want to see them. They are not staying for ever, they are only coming for a short visit, for heavens sake!
As for her respect to her husband...the fact that she is not inviting them to stay at her home, as well as the fact that she is begging for his permission before she lets them visit even for 15 mins...eh these are proving it, değil mi?
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:31 pm |
+1 agree with susie
Avoid up coming problems,no one need them,
meet them out,if they want to see you and kids,but definitely tell your husband,and take his approval too,and save yourself a headache!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:35 pm |
What ever you decide Geeta, I wish you good luck. I just wouldn't ever beg a man, huband, bf etc.. to see a good friend of mine. I have never let a man get in between a friendship. That's my two sense for the day. Hopefully you can find someone here who will translate your post.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:38 pm |
İf you changed places,would you like it really ?
Would you like your husband to ask you to leave the house because his friends,pr even more,his family don't like you,and you don't like them,and he want to invite them in !
Would you leave your home,and just go ?!
İ'm sorry,i wouldn't do it,it is my home,and if my husband,or my man care about me he wouldn't ask this from me,
İt would really break my heart if he does !
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:44 pm |
Quoting CANLI: İf you changed places,would you like it really ?
Would you like your husband to ask you to leave the house because his friends,pr even more,his family don't like you,and you don't like them,and he want to invite them in !
Would you leave your home,and just go ?!
İ'm sorry,i wouldn't do it,it is my home,and if my husband,or my man care about me he wouldn't ask this from me,
İt would really break my heart if he does !
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If my husband had a friend I didn't care for and he came to visit my home, I would gladly leave or suck it up and put a smile on my face. This is so petty, my gosh.. Don't you get it, it's called compromise. Obviously, this girl values her friendship and wants to see her friend and children. Why the heck can't her friend come to her home for 15 minutes and visit. Heck, tell her husband to go in the backyard if he can't deal with it. Bye the way it's called sacrificing! You do this when your married or at least I thought.
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 09:47 pm |
Quoting CANLI: +1 agree with susie
Avoid up coming problems,no one need them,
meet them out and save yourself a headache! |
If I'm not mistaken there is a problem here. A problematic situation, right? And if she does what you and Susie are advicing her to do, then she ll never solve it. She will only perpetuate it. Now she may not care rejecting her friends just to obey him, for the sake of home peace. But if she obeys now she ll be obeying always somehow. And one day she will wake up and realise that she has no friends left and no power to make her own choices and decisions. And that will be too bad.
And for those who will say that I m exaggerating, please keep in mind that it's only personal experience speaking. Nothing else...
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:07 pm |
Quoting geeta: Hi classmates,
I need your help badly. My Greek Cypriot friends are coming to meet me. I have to dare to tell this news to my husband. He and these people had a longgggg fight before I left Cyprus. I have to say please to him innumerable times I think, but anyway here is my mail -
Dear Husband,
Niki and Mario are coming to Turkey next week. Niki mailed me yesterday. You will also be here by that time so please I am requesting you…can I invite her to our home? Please don’t be angry at me, let’s forget the past shall we? I know what you will say but please try to forget it for 15 minutes at least. Please don’t forget that Niki’s family and her friends helped me a lot in my bad period when I was in Larnaca. I know you people can’t stay in a same room with each other peacefully even for a minute but please they just wish to see our children. She said that they will be with us only for 10-15 minutes and then they will go. Please please say yes for me…for me please!
I am waiting for your reply eagerly. Please think about this calmly. Dont be upset. Without your permission I won't decide anything with them.
Lots of love…Geeta, Erol, Berk, Aygül
Please friends can anyone help me?
Regards
Geeta
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Sevgili Kocam,
Niki ve Mario Türkiye ye geliyorlar gelecek hafta. Niki dün email gönderdi. Sende o sıralarda burada olacaksın, bu yuzden rica ediyorum... onu evimize davet edebilir miyim? Lutfen bana kızma, gecmisi unutalım, olur mu? Ne soylecegini biliyorum ama lutfen unutmayı dene 15 dakika en azından. Lutfen unutma ki Larnaca da kötü dönemimde Niki nin ailesi bana cok yardım etti. Biliyorum sizler bir dakika bile bir odada huzur icinde duramıyorsunuz ama lutfen sadece cocuklarımızı gormek istiyorlar. Bizimle sadece 10-15 dakika kalacaklarını soyledi, sonra gidecekler. Lutfen lutfen benim icin evet de... benim için lütfen!
Cevabını sabırsızlıkla bekliyorum. Lutfen bunu sakince düsün. Uzulme. Senin iznin olmadan, onlarla ilgili hicbirseye karar vermiyecegim.
Kucak dolusu sevgiler_Geeta , Erol, Berk , Aygül
here is the translation... and if he is a human... he will understand your wish i suppose... wish you luck!
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:29 pm |
Quoting SuiGeneris: here is the translation... and if he is a human... he will understand your wish i suppose... wish you luck! |
sent it in PM
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:30 pm |
Sent translation in PM a little while ago
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:38 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:43 pm |
Quoting sophie:
And one day she will wake up and realise that she has no friends left and no power to make her own choices and decisions. And that will be too bad.
And for those who will say that I m exaggerating, please keep in mind that it's only personal experience speaking. Nothing else... |
That is so true too :-S
İ guess she must find her way to get a compromise between having peace at home,and keep the ability to have her own choices !
And here is very hard too,specially there is hate between both sides,her husband and her friends ...
What a situation !
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:46 pm |
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 10:57 pm |
İ would do if i can really,but the situation was hard enough and need no more risks.
Sorry that i couldn't help,glad she finally got the translation .
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31 Oct 2006 Tue 11:12 pm |
Geeta I wish you good luck with this..I'm glad someone finally helped you translate this letter. Personally I don't think anyone should have to ask a husband for permission to see a good friend, especially for such a short visit, but I understand you love your husband and don't want to make him angry. But yeah, just keep in mind you have your own rights too, and you have a right to keep friends. I hope this all works out for you ♥
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01 Nov 2006 Wed 06:05 am |
Hello classmates,
I needed a translation but you people have done a wonderful job of being my ‘mates’. Different opinions and different comments. Thank you all for taking your time to give me your comments.
Thanx Sui and Kia for your help in translation.
I am sorry this post became lot more than a translation post. I needed to tell him in Turkish language cause I think he will take it better. He makes horrible mistakes in English tenses. I just wanted to be clear to him.
Friends, a lot of things happened before leaving Cyprus. I don’t mean to offend anybody but you know relations of two communities in Cyprus! The only thing I understood from that 3-4 hour verbal and sometimes physical fight between him and the Greek Cypriot family… they all love me very much. They were pointing out each other’s mistakes just to prove that I won’t be happy if I would stay in Cyprus with the GC family or go to India and then to Turkey with him.
As for my friends they always have a belief that ‘I am a submissive wife’ so I don’t think they will mind if he says ‘no’ and I agree to that but still I would like to give it a shot. Maybe he will say ‘yes’ for 15 minutes for me. If they insult him I myself will tell them to go. The only problem for me is to control him if he looses his temper and he is very quick to that.
Anyway I wont make this post a ‘General / Off Topic’ Thank u guys. I hope everything works out ‘calm’ with me.
Thanx again
Regards
Geeta
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01 Nov 2006 Wed 06:36 am |
Quoting geeta: Thanx Sui and Kia for your help in translation. |
The names Kai hun lol
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01 Nov 2006 Wed 09:20 am |
Quoting kai:
The names Kai hun lol |
oops sorry.......one more example of silly small spelling mistake when one types under tension.
Thanx Kai
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01 Nov 2006 Wed 10:28 am |
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