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Turkish and or muslim dress
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17 Dec 2007 Mon 11:30 pm |
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Hey i want to introduce a new topic inspired by a channel 4 programme which is called 'make me a muslim' I don't know if anyone watched it but the idea of the show is to challenge non muslims to live as muslims for 3 weeks.With this in mind they were encouraging British women to wear the Hijab.
I found this really interesting wearing the hijab myself sometimes when family situations demand it and i don't have a problem with it in fact i like it i find it does stop some of the staring and helps to show the respect for him that i don't want anyone else appreciating me except him.I was just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this or the wider issues of clothing,modesty etc in western secular society as opposed to more eastern muslim countries.I would also like to ask where does Turkey fit into all this? Any thoughts?
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17 Dec 2007 Mon 11:54 pm |
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I find for myself that modesty is the best policy. I did not see the program that you mentioned but I am wondering....does wearing hijab make you muslim?
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:10 am |
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No of course wearing the hijab won't make you a muslim just as much as wearing a cross won't make you a christian.On my part anyway it is mearly an expression to my partner that i understand,respect and often enjoy experiencing his culture and religion.
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:21 am |
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Quoting SERA_2005: channel 4 programme which is called 'make me a muslim' I don't know if anyone watched it but the idea of the show is to challenge non muslims to live as muslims for 3 weeks.With this in mind they were encouraging British women to wear the Hijab. |
This program sounds strange.  With all the problems with muslims in europe, they are encouraging Brits to become muslims and wear hijab, not the other way round  . I wonder who's behind it! I bet it's the Saudi royal family.
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:26 am |
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Its never a wrong idea to introduce people to each others customs, because this can lead to understanding and toleration. However, since Im already against the concept of hijab anyway, and since it goes against the basic ideas of equality between men and women, I am very surprised it is encouraged.
Sera, do you really need to put on a scarf to show your man that you are only for him? Because saying this implies you think that when not covering your head, you 'offer' yourself to other men.
I will never put on a headscarf (well I do but just when it rains and is too windy for umbrella or when I forget  ), nor will I ever offer myself to any other than the one I love. And the fact that I love, carries the so called meaning of hijab in it.
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:29 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting SERA_2005: channel 4 programme which is called 'make me a muslim' I don't know if anyone watched it but the idea of the show is to challenge non muslims to live as muslims for 3 weeks.With this in mind they were encouraging British women to wear the Hijab. |
This program sounds strange. With all the problems with muslims in europe, they are encouraging Brits to become muslims and wear hijab, not the other way round . I wonder who's behind it! I bet it's the Saudi royal family. |
Lol i doubt it.It was on a british TV channel which goes through seasons of different programmes this particular one is under the 'umbrella' of belief.They have all sorts of different things like a talent seasons about music and some about history etc plus showing lots of other programmes.Its very mainstream and i am sure any of my fellow Brits would agree.It was like a challenge to get a group of Brits to understand,learn and live as Muslims for 3 weeks.
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:30 am |
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http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/makeme.html
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:33 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Its never a wrong idea to introduce people to each others customs, because this can lead to understanding and toleration. However, since Im already against the concept of hijab anyway, and since it goes against the basic ideas of equality between men and women, I am very surprised it is encouraged.
Sera, do you really need to put on a scarf to show your man that you are only for him? Because saying this implies you think that when not covering your head, you 'offer' yourself to other men.
I will never put on a headscarf (well I do but just when it rains and is too windy for umbrella or when I forget ), nor will I ever offer myself to any other than the one I love. And the fact that I love, carries the so called meaning of hijab in it. |
Nicely said Deli!
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:48 am |
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Quoting Deli_kizin: Its never a wrong idea to introduce people to each others customs, because this can lead to understanding and toleration. However, since Im already against the concept of hijab anyway, and since it goes against the basic ideas of equality between men and women, I am very surprised it is encouraged.
Sera, do you really need to put on a scarf to show your man that you are only for him? Because saying this implies you think that when not covering your head, you 'offer' yourself to other men.
I will never put on a headscarf (well I do but just when it rains and is too windy for umbrella or when I forget ), nor will I ever offer myself to any other than the one I love. And the fact that I love, carries the so called meaning of hijab in it. |
I totally understand your points and so much for bringing them up.Firstly your comment about me wearing a scarf.This is something i do out of respect for him,he doesnt force me to do it i simply want to.To address what you said about me offering myself to men when i am not covered is one i understand but do not agree with.I am obviously never offering myself to anyone other than my fiance however i find there are alot less looks from people when i am covered.perhaps because it is more difficult to see that i am foreign and to be honest that probably gets just as many looks as anything else.I think you are missing the point about dressing modestly. The Quran states that both men and women should dress modestly and in womens case this involves them covering their hair.It is not about opression as so many western people think.It is in fact the opposite,it is liberation! Women who wear the hijab are covering themselves in order to be freed from the sexual looks and thoughts of men.
I know that wearing the costume won't stop men thinking what they want but it will certainly help them to think about something else.However saying that i do take your points and agree to an extent that a woman should not have to wear something just to stop men thinking sexual thoughts because they shouldnt be thinking things like that in the beginning.Women are not just pieces of meat to be salivated over,we are people too! But i also agree with the idea that dressing modestly creates an atmosphere where sexual thoughts are less likely to be thought and therefore one is less likely to be seen as a sexual object.
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18 Dec 2007 Tue 12:50 am |
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Quoting SERA_2005: Women who wear the hijab are covering themselves in order to be freed from the sexual looks and thoughts of men.. |
This is exactly where it becomes some hidden form of oppression!!!
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