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40.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 03:17 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

Quoting SERA_2005:


If you are insinuating that the Islamic culture or religion is in any way promoting violence or having anything to do with viewing terrorism in a positive light then you are totally incorrect and acting in a very irresponsible and offensive way.Islam means peace.Its only the view of ignorant western people that suggest it is anything otherwise.Oh and just incase anyone didnt know terrorism started long before 9/11.


sera
give me no shit.
its not definetly you who would teach me about islam.
i know the islam much better from inside unlike you ignorant westerner!
i really have no wish to speak to the wall.
i have no patience, let the others do it, they are more polite and patient.



I was not or will ever give you shit,as you put it.I was simply pointing out that the opinion that Islam is a faith with is in support of terrorist activities and believes in such terrible things is just not factually correct.Islam is a peaceful religion.There are however a small minority of extremists who wish to corrupt the religion and take part in negative/illegal activities in its name thus making many think that this behaviour is representative of the whole religion when it is not.I may be western but by no means am i ignorant.

41.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 03:22 pm

Quoting SERA_2005:

I was not or will ever give you shit,as you put it.I was simply pointing out that the opinion that Islam is a faith with is in support of terrorist activities and believes in such terrible things is just not factually correct.Islam is a peaceful religion.There are however a small minority of extremists who wish to corrupt the religion and take part in negative/illegal activities in its name thus making many think that this behaviour is representative of the whole religion when it is not.I may be western but by no means am i ignorant.


Sera, there are verses in the Koran that support the extremist actions... for example: The murderer of Theo van Gogh

42.       SERA_2005
668 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 03:29 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting SERA_2005:

I was not or will ever give you shit,as you put it.I was simply pointing out that the opinion that Islam is a faith with is in support of terrorist activities and believes in such terrible things is just not factually correct.Islam is a peaceful religion.There are however a small minority of extremists who wish to corrupt the religion and take part in negative/illegal activities in its name thus making many think that this behaviour is representative of the whole religion when it is not.I may be western but by no means am i ignorant.


Sera, there are verses in the Koran that support the extremist actions... for example: The murderer of Theo van Gogh



I don't view this selective quoting business as conclusive proof of anything.Anyone can find a quote from somewhere take it out of context and make it fit what they want to say.There are so many things in all the holy texts which could be used in support or defence of these actions and many other moral situations such as abortion etc which i am sure we all remember talking about a while ago.

43.       catwoman
8933 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 03:33 pm

Quoting SERA_2005:

I don't view this selective quoting business as conclusive proof of anything.Anyone can find a quote from somewhere take it out of context and make it fit what they want to say.There are so many things in all the holy texts which could be used in support or defence of these actions and many other moral situations such as abortion etc which i am sure we all remember talking about a while ago.


That is true, you can find barbaric verses in all scriptures. Unfortunately in the case of Islam, many people take those verses seriously and act based on them.

44.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 04:15 pm

Quoting SERA_2005:


Excuse me how dare you.If you read my previous posts more carefully you will see that i said if the situation demands a scarf i would wear one not if my fiance did!! Perhaps a little more careful reading is in order before you write such rude insulting posts and please while we are on the subject if you have a problem with what i am saying then send me a personal message rather than writing it on here then we can talk about it like sensible adults rather than kids!He would never demand anything of me or anyone else for that matter.And as for making personal comments well i am not even going to go there,i will post what i like thank you very much and i won't be spoken to like that.


How interesting that you take such offense to what I said....thou doth protest too much?
I DARE because I am a person of free will. I say what I like, wear what I like, do what I like. If you have an issue with that, then as you stated in your lovely private message to me, don't read it.

45.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 04:51 pm

It is so hard for me to explain what has taken me years to understand myself. I have been involved in a West/East, Christian/Muslim relationship for many years now. If there is ONE thing I can say, one pearl of wisdom I can pass to someone starting in this kind of relationship, it will be this:

Be yourself...or risk being a poor substitution for a Turkish bride. Don't try to be one of them. Be yourself and be proud...at least you will sleep well at night and never worry if you are good enough.



46.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 05:09 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Don't try to be one of them. Be yourself and be proud...at least you will sleep well at night and never worry if you are good enough.


good job, you bed amerikano!

47.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 05:11 pm

Quoting SERA_2005:


I don't view this selective quoting business as conclusive proof of anything.


which means you are afraid of quotations. selective or not selective, you must be able to stand up for it.

Quoting SERA_2005:


Anyone can find a quote from somewhere take it out of context and make it fit what they want to say.


lets do it in the context. agree?

Quoting SERA_2005:



There are so many things in all the holy texts which could be used in support or defence of these actions and many other moral situations such as abortion etc which i am sure we all remember talking about a while ago.



do you know any?

48.       femme_fatal
0 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 05:16 pm

btw
sera, you look very sexy and very modest your hijab must be invisible.

49.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 05:24 pm


Quoting femme_fatal:

btw
sera, you look very sexy and very modest your hijab must be invisible.

50.       alameda
3499 posts
 19 Dec 2007 Wed 08:47 pm

Look at it like this. Please take the time to actually THINK about it.

The dominant culture that is now in power is Polynesian, or some African Nubian culture where hardly any garments are worn. How would you feel bare breasts, belly exposed and more?

Different cultures have different degrees of bodily exposure they are comfortable with. To some women in the Islamic cultures, exposing their hair, neck and other bodily parts is tantamount to being naked.

Would you like to HAVE to bare your breasts? It's a matter of personal privacy for many.

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