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4470.       Trudy
7887 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 07:25 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

 

The doctor I can choose myself, I even can insist to take X-rays home with me. I don´t have these choices at a gate.

4471.       alameda
3499 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 08:02 pm

 

Quoting Yersu

Can somebody explain to me why this is different than, say, letting a doctor see your naked body?

 

For one, it is rare any legitimate doctor would have to, or request t, see one´s naked body.  Doctors look at specific areas of a body, not the whole naked body at once.

 

For two, one chooses to see a doctor and has some choice in what doctor they will see. 

 

For three, there is a legal guarantee of privacy in seeing a doctor.

 

For four, one has the legal right to refuse treatment, if they so desire.

 

It is clearly a violation of one´s right to privacy.



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4472.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 10:48 pm

Well, yersu, for one thing, doctors do not take your nude pictures, let alone store them in a database a huge number of other doctors have access to...

4473.       ptaszek
440 posts
 15 Feb 2010 Mon 11:21 pm

do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}but still their problem not mine...

4474.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 12:06 am

 

Quoting ptaszek

do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}but still their problem not mine...

 

you´re free to go ahead and get yourself x-rayed as much as you want. Wink

4475.       lemon
1374 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 12:27 am

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

you´re free to go ahead and get yourself x-rayed as much as you want. Wink

 

then what is your solution to this?

4476.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 01:41 am

 

Quoting ptaszek

do not understand all the fuss..my body is perfect,no problem with being xrayed at the gate or perhaps a problem for those who may watch it?{#emotions_dlg.super_cool}but still their problem not mine...

 

I´ve no problem being seen naked (no, i won´t post pictures lol). But like I said, I don´t want my son to be seen naked and risk having his photo uploaded on a paedophil´s website. Also, it would stir my suspictions whether or not to get scanned if I were pregnant...

4477.       catwoman
8933 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 08:44 am

 

Quoting lemon

then what is your solution to this?

 

my solution is to create two-way tvs - you see them and they see you and monitor all your activity. an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.

4478.       armegon
1872 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 10:12 am

 

{#emotions_dlg.scared} So you think this is not the violation of privacy, according to some documentaries future slaves will be created by this method, you can be volunteer as a test subject for this ...

Quoting catwoman

an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.

 

 

4479.       lemon
1374 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 06:01 pm

 

Quoting catwoman

 

 

my solution is to create two-way tvs - you see them and they see you and monitor all your activity. an alternative would be installing chips into people´s brains to know exactly what they are thinking.

 

on a serious note, how that tv is supposed to work? how that tv would scan your hidden weapon or anything else? and why would i want to see what airport security does or doesnt? if i can monitor security, then they are not security anymore. those who monitor cant monitor all your activity.

 

good joke!

4480.       Yersu
241 posts
 16 Feb 2010 Tue 08:07 pm

Thanks for your opinions but I still don´t think there is any violation of privacy here. I am sure there already is a term for what I am going to say but I don´t know it: I believe it can not be considered a violation of privacy as long as the observer does not have any connection or specific interest in the observee. No one would be disturbed about this whole scanning issue if it was completely executed by a computer, because the observer, in this case the computer, would not be concerned about you. But obviously; image recognition software isn´t that mature as of now, thus there is need for human assistance. So the securtiy guard looks at the picture before his eyes, not really different than what the computer does, and tries to recognize shapes in it. To the observer it isn´t a naked body, it´s a mathematical entity, a bunch of pixels which need to be identified.

 

Let a program which fills a picture with random pixels run for an infinite amount of time; and some of its output will be your naked photos, of all sorts, some even naughtier than you can ever imagine. There will even be one that shows you riding a donkey on the top of Eiffel tower. It´s simply data.



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Edited (2/16/2010) by Yersu

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