What a tragedy!Poor girls!

Why? Because then you could claim it´s not your problem? 

To some degree. First of all; this would help identify the problem correctly. Let me put it this way; is this a problem that occurs rarely and homogeniously amongst the whole Turkish population? Or is it a problem that occurs commonly among a certain closed community? Just look at those comments, people have no idea and they are bashing irrelevant stuff, laws, religion etc. The problem has to be correctly defined; no need for political correctness bs.

So you would like to exclude a large community in your country because they have other habits / ideas than you? Hmmm.... if that is done in other countries then hell breaks loose!

I´m confused about political correctness

My Turkish friend who lives in Holland refused to watch Dutch news for a while. She said it negatively reflected Muslims, since the news reported on Muslim men who tried to bomb stuff. She said they shouldn´t say that they are Muslims, or give more info on how these men are forced sometimes to bomb stuff. I thought to myself... the problem is not the news, the problem is the guy with the bomb...

Anyway, she is also the kind of person who would say that this double suicide needs to be investigated further, regarding cultural background. She made such a remark before about a honour killing.

So... I´m confused by her... when should I check into somebody´s background and when should I not... PC is hard

i think i agree with you here.

PC is also the reason nobody says what they mean, mean what they say or has a clue what is going on!

I didn´t expect that.

It can´t be called excluding but think about it from my perspective. I am a Turkish person, by mind and by blood. I haven´t seen or heard of any honur killings/töre suicides in my family or in my neighborhood or in my city or in my region, ever. I don´t even know how that whole stuff works, it´s completely alien to us. Now, why would I want to be associated with that?

Anyway, just don´t mind me. I am very agitated about this topic and I could go on for days :S

its just obvious. you cant do anything about some group of people. the change must come from inside.