Read my comment well cat,i havent mentioned anything nor commented on the issue of banning that site because i almost agree with most that have been said,that there was/is no need for such banning

İ have no problem if those sites exist or not,i dont have interest in such sites,so to me its not a problem both ways,i dont view them

And if i did by chance,and read there what i dont like,simply i wont open again,thats simple

Thats my opinion as a muslim

But my reply was to both your post,and DD´s regarding muslims,which wishing secular people ´which surely they have enough money´ ban religious sites

İnteresting way of thinking..not just thinking but wishing too !

70 ?!

Look Trudy,actually things are very much simple

To be a Muslim you must accept 2 things,and believe them deep into your heart ´Akida´ which means deep believe

That there is only one God ALLAH and Mohamed SAV is his last messenger.

Muslims have no differnces upon this,and who has,i can freely call him/her not muslims.

And in that believe we are ordered to follow 2 things...Qur´an which are words of ALLAH,and Hadith,which are words of Rasul SAV.

So by those 2 things and in those 2 things we judge,i personally dont know wahabist,Sunni,Shi´i...etc

İ know those!

Someone comes to me tells me...Burka is compulsory..i say ok...show me in the book..tell me Hadith

İf he did,and show it to me..ok then it is...if not...so...sorry,its not compulsory

´gays should be pushed of a building with their heads down´...mmm !

Did theye even have any buildings at that time ?!!!

Anyway,same...here is the book,show me...Hadith...tell me

İf he/she did,then we start to talk,if not...then nope sorry

Those are our judges

And not just showing it to me and explaining it as they want.

İ know/read/search the back ground of the hadith,and what happened and in what incident it has been said,then if its same case with same given data ,then ok,i accept that judgement,if not...then he/she can keep his/her opinion to her/himself !

İm sorry Trudy,but yes anyone can say what he/she wants...but we have 1 book,and also we have specific hadith those are no doubts about them we go back to them

Those are our teachers/judges,guides...etc

´´there was a time in the past when they were fighting İslam,so the wrote hadith silly ones,and said Rasul SAV said them to mislead muslims,and separate them,so imams on that time reviwed all hadith,and decided which is strong and which ones those people put them´´ 

And ALLAH gave us mind,so at any matter,we judge by our book,hadith of Rasul,and see if we accept the given explanation or not.

So even when imams say opinions,explain something...we ask...about Qur´an,about hadith that got that Fatwa ´opinion´ from then we accept it or not.

And also that is what ALLAH ordered us to do,and gave us minds to use,and later HE will ask us,Havent İ gave you Qur´an,havent İ sent you my massenger to clarify what is hard for you,havent İ gave you minds to use

then why have you did so and so ?! 

So we better have an answer to that,also that one who said ´gays should be pushed of a building with their heads down´

HE will ask him to get it from book,from hadith not from wahhabi/sunni/shi´i or whatever...and he better has an answer...if there is any !

 İn a country which let´s even say %60 of the people are muslims,do you want them to ban the İslamic sources/sites ?

Because what ? assuming that they hate their own religion ?!!

Want/wish them to fight them on their own religion ?!!

When i was doing section 6 homework,imir,istik kepi,i thought that we dont have home works about the negative question

So,i opened WinMekMak to check it

And there i found there there are cases with sen and siz in the optative tense as well

Gidesin

Gidesiniz

But with o and onlar its not recommended!

And when i opened here

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_2565

İ found there are none !

Another point,is the meaning .

Getsin....talking with someone about x and telling an order that x should do.

Getmesin.. ,,  ,,  ,, ,,  ,,  ,,   ,,,   ,,,  ,,,, ,,,,,  ,,,,,, ,,,,,, ,,,,,, ,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,, ,,,should NOT do.

Getsin mi ? also same but instead asking if he should go...in a friendly tone,or in an order tone ?

Getmesin mi ?..same as above but with negative,again,is it a friendly tone or blaming tone ?

İf i understood it right,then i think i understand your point!

 Yes handsom,i know that too

Beside i have said my views on such issues many times before,its not we are dicussing this for the first time  

Quoting thehandsom

 

and this is what I said and I stick to it

 

Quote:

I am not sure if you can say that the terorism in Iraq is ´christian terrorism´ weather Bush says it is or not.

It is so obvious that the war in Iraq is nothing to do with the religion.

As long as Iraq is neighbour with Iran and SA , instead country of carrot, they are the country of oil, USA would invade Iraq.

And of course it is nothing to do with democracy either!!

What I am trying to say is that even  Iraqies were worshipping  "Eris, the Goddess of Discord" as opposed to Allah, same thing would have happened to them. (Same thing goes to Bush as well. He could have been worshipping potatoes instead of  God. it would not matter)

And of course handsom i respect your opinion,if you believe you know it better than the one who said,and who apply that kind of action ´invading İraq´ in the name of his government

And also ,if you know it better than the one who is supposed to be part of the department which trying to be following him

Then...its your business !

Btw handsom..i have never thought about it as Crusade untill Bush said it,and even then i thought what a silly thing to say,it must be a bad choice of the words

But after Palin ...and knew then how silly i was !

 Thx dear cat,but actually that is what she also is..Plain

İ can give her that much,the woman doesnt hide and doesnt say different than she believes!

And this also for member(s) who seems want to convince us that USA wanted/wants realy to help İraq

For you handsom

http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_33694

 They refused to be accused of invading İraq for oil..nope ,they are not greedy,but its a mission from GOD !

 God know what next mession will be that God will whisper it to them !

But YES,absolutely,shame on us...being delusional we are .

Ps:hey handsom,better ask Palin,not to be that Plain!

 Bush and Plain

 Yeah,yeah and im queen Elizabeth  

 Ehmmm ehmmmmm,but you dont know whom they bought the flowers for !lol 

They were the dudus lollllllll