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Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1931.

CANLI
5084 posts

13 May 2008 Tue 01:04 am

Quoting thehandsom:

I can see no credit to sheria itself in your post.

If women are able to wear mini skirts in Egypt, it is because, sheria is not applied.

If it was, you very well know, they would not be able to.
Am I right?

And also it does not change the fact that they are seen as sinful, blasphemist and ultimately people who are betraying Quran.

İ dont know what do you mean by no credit to sheria !

First i wasnt talking about Sharia,i was discussing that its our right to wear what we like without being joke materials or being judged!

Second,according to Sharia,women SHOULD wear hijab...but its not anyone's business also if she didnt
Or there are some verses in Quran that ordered people to kill or put in jail women who are not wearing hijab that im not aware of ?!

So no,you are not right,if sharia is applied RİGHT they still would be able to.

And also i dont think they are seen as sinful...ect because...well,life has many problems,so actually what do i care what other women wear or if they are sinful or not ?
İts their business not mine

My cousin is not wearing hijab and i dont think she is sinful
Yes,she didnt obay ALLAH in putting on Hijab,but she is obaying HİM in other things,she maybe better infront of ALLAH than one who is putting on hijab and tell lies,steal ...ect
We cant judge people,only ALLAH can,HE know what we dont know,and HE read hearts...you cant,and i cant
So how can i or you judge ?!

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1932.

CANLI
5084 posts

13 May 2008 Tue 12:46 am

Quoting Deli_kizin:

To be honest, the hijab picture you posted, is exactly the type of 'modest muslim woman' that I cant stand. You put the headscarf because God orders you to do so and he/she does so with a specific reason. Then, you cover your head, buy some nice tight long skirt that makes your hips come out nicely, you put on some make-up and you are ready to go!

(I am aware of the generalisation of this statement, but it is a fact there is a big statement in the way you put on your headscarf)

Well,if you want to put on make up or not its also personal choice,you should cover your hips,but if you dont its personal choice also...something between you and ALLAH
ALLAH ordered us to put on hijab for some reason,we should cover our bodies and cover our hair
That is the rule,and its fixed,no change
But its different how you apply it,İslam and Quran is for all times,in the past women didnt go out for work 'they didnt have too'
So they could wear long and wide dresses,and they did
But today,women go to Uni,work,do shoppings,its more safe,and more close to the meaning of the order 'in my opinion' not to wear wide dresses ,not practical unless in some situations
But again as i said,its personal opinion or choice,some women do wear wide dresses still

As you see,i cant post all the ways or types girls and women wear hijab
İts different according to the person itself
This picture as you saw from the link 'if you opened it ' is from a show so that girl is a model,there are others that not tight,and covering hips,i liked those colors best
What you buy or what you wear is your own choice

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1933.

CANLI
5084 posts

13 May 2008 Tue 12:35 am

Quoting Saskia1970:

(women were not really visible, if they were out on the streets they walked like they were in a hurry or they were dressed in burka's which isn't an invitation for a friendly chat)

Either all that time,i was born and lived here i was living in a different country than Egypt,or you've been to another Egypt !

Women were NOT VİSİBLE and İF they were out !!!
Wooow we are talking about before 1920th here !

Females in the Pre-university education
16.3 million students in the year 2003/2004, of which females accounted for about 47.9 per cent.

Female enrollment in university and higher education
Total number of enrolled students in the university and higher education in 2003/04 reached around 2.02 million students, of whom females account for around 49 per cent which percentage has remained stable through 2004/05
http://www.sis.gov.eg/En/Women/Society/Education/100303000000000001.htm

Do you think that those females are more like invisible man attend schools and Uni,walk in the streets while they are invisible,then back to home and be visible again ?!
Beside those figuers only about females in education,so how about after graduation,where do you think they go,or what do they do ?!
Not working of course neither going out or else they will be visible !

As i said,either you've been to another Egypt,or im living in a different one !

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1934.

CANLI
5084 posts

13 May 2008 Tue 12:10 am

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting CANLI:

Giant bag ?!
So we look like giant bags ?!!!
That was very nice thing to say really.

I'm sorry if that offended you, but, please, what do women wearing a bag may look like? A bag is my only association.

Still, it's your choice to do it and you don't need my permission for it. I was simply giving my opinion. But, according to you, what does it look like?

I'm just curious - why do women decide to wear it if it's not justified by religion.

What does it look like,or why do they decide to wear its not my business,its theirs
Of course its not nice to make fun of someone just because you dont like or agree with what they look like,or wear

And that is not hijab,that called niqab or burka as you call it
Hijab looks like this

http://all-ideas.net/vb/showthread.php?t=527
Btw,niqap is not much appreciated in my country,but still we dont make fun of them,they are free to wear as they like

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1935.

CANLI
5084 posts

12 May 2008 Mon 12:10 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:

I've heard things get harder in Egypt where you may get physically harassed if you don't look like a giant bag.

Giant bag ?!
So we look like giant bags ?!!!
That was very nice thing to say really.

Look,i dont have problem to say that,only hijab is permitted in Egypt,and women who dont wear it get harassed or fiercely looks or whatever
İ do NOT have problem about it at ALL if that was the case here
Things getting harder here yes,but for women who wear hijab not the other way around
Women and girls who are not wearing hijab can have many opportunities in work that i 'as veiled woman' dont have
So she also get of course better salary better positions

Dont think there are competition here or something,there is none
because ...most companies,banks do NOT hire women who wear hijab at the first place
Except at government official works,they hire both

Anyway,believe what you want its your business
We have 2 satellites with many,many Egyptian channels,Arabsat and NileSat
İf you want,you can find them,and also believe what you want.

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1936.

CANLI
5084 posts

12 May 2008 Mon 11:44 am

Quoting Saskia1970:

I once was in Egypt wearing loose, long-sleeved T-shirts and almost baggy trousers, so no fitform jeans that made my body clear to see. But in just 1 week I got 8 times remarks like 'nice boobs, nice bum, want to sleep with me'. And twice a guy was trying to grab me at my breasts - they didn't succeed, I gave them a punch with my elbow. So what about 'not beeing seen as an object'? What about 'wearing whatever you want'?

My dear,you once been to Egypt,but we are ALREADY live in Egypt,and women and girls walking around wearing short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts,and what ever they want without any problem
Girls and women in my family not wearing Hijab and also they have no problem
And there are also women who wear hijab and burka,and have no problem
İm sry for the experience you had,but im sure there also are many women are been harassed in Western countries even with hijab not just with short shirts and strappy tops ,mini skirts !

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1937.

CANLI
5084 posts

12 May 2008 Mon 11:37 am

Quoting thehandsom:

And you know that in Sharia its allowed to put women who not wearing Hijab or Burka into prisons ?
Or force women to wear Hijab ?
İs it in Sharia ?!
İ think you need to know about sharia more
But as you said we have talked about this before,and usless to talk about it again
We can just add the link to that thread .

Thread: Fitna (a short movie about Islam in Europe)

1938.

CANLI
5084 posts

11 May 2008 Sun 10:55 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Yes,we both live in the same world,and we both know !

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1939.

CANLI
5084 posts

11 May 2008 Sun 10:49 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

You may be right. But if they make a lawcase of it, they will win because there is no legal system or jury who will back you up. the other way, you will loose because the jury and the law are against you

That is the point,i was trying to point it out
İf you made a lawcase about it here you will win too,because legal system is backing you up
You are FREE to wear what you want,in the name of law also !
Of course not in İran ,Saudi Arabis,and Afghanistan.

Thread: Burqa,offensive and laughable

1940.

CANLI
5084 posts

11 May 2008 Sun 10:10 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

You are right but it is still 3 countries And there is none in the west that it is dangerous for you to walk around, even if they are offficially religious like Italy

Actually you cant be sure of that,specially after 11/9 things became horrible for Muslims in some countries
Even women who were putting on hijab had taken it off and men with beard,had it shaved to cover that they are Muslims when walking in the streets
Closing their doors tight afraid if they will get attacked by people who knew they are Muslims
So actually no,it can be VERY dangerouse too just walking around

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