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Thread: Turkish girls!!!

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 08:04 pm

Quoting femme_fatal:

super!
kadisha, super business woman driving expensive cars on one hand
and aisha with all other wives from colorfull harem wrapped up with blankets kept home

Look,Kadica ,Ayşa, and all Mohammed's SAV wives are holy to us,i would've answered to you if i know you would show them same respect that we show to Holy Mary,but knowing you wouldnt,so better end it.

Thread: Turkish girls!!!

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 07:49 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Canli, Please correct me if I am wrong but many of these woman in Islamic countries are opressed because of cultural restrictions and not necessarily because of their religion. At least this is what I have been told...is it true?

Yes in the most cases,and in other cases is wrong understanding for religion itself,for example,why the heck women cant drive cars ?
What this got to do with İslam ?!

Thread: Turkish girls!!!

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 07:39 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting AlphaF:

Islam does not bar muslim ladies from taking an active role in science, commerce, business etc. Muhammed's first wife was a well known business woman (Hatica) who managed trade caravans running all around the place, all on her own.

What Quran decrees however is that the natural and the best place for any woman is by her family...it is an advice, a divine guidance. Other options are open to personal preference, they are not forbidden.

That's really fantasy what you're talking about. Women in Islam are the most oppressed women in the world who have no personal freedom. In SA they can't even drive a car!

How about MEN'S place? In between his four wifes...??

You call that "family values"?

Didnt you read what AlphaF's said ?
Muhammed SAV first wife was a business woman before she got married to him and after she did till she died
So i guess if there was cars those days,she would be driving one !
There is much difference between what should be and what is happening..that is not in İslam.
You can say women in some Muslim's country dont have personal freedom or ...blah ,blah,i accept
But i dont accept that you say Women in Islam !

Thread: turkish piece of paper

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 07:27 pm

Quoting catwoman:

I think you really have to define "respect" and "insult". We may be talking about different things. To reiterate my point - I think that if you disagree with someone on an issue and think it's "rubbish", you should be free to say so.

To say that i do not agree with you because it doesnt make sense to me because of....and,..... ect ,that is respect.
To say what you belife is rubbish 'sh*t,crap,nonsense..,ect'...that is insult.
İ guess its obvious what is insult and what is not cat.

Thread: turkish piece of paper

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 06:32 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting CANLI:

1. Well,because we are human and we tend to respect each other ?!
2. Because we dont live in a jungle which we should fight when we dont agree with each other ?
3. Respect someone beliefs is respecting the person himself
Because you represent your beliefs
You live,act accourding to what you believe or else you would be hypocrite,believing something and doing something else.
4. There is much difference between AGREE with that beliefs and RESPECT it.
5. Of course everyone has the right to agree or disagree ,that İS democracy.
6. But also,if you disagree , they still have the right you respect what they believe,and that İS democracy too.

1. We respect each other, the same goes for respecting people who don't agree with you
2. Exactly!
3. No, you can respect a person without agreeing with her/his beliefs.
4. Depends what you mean by "respect". If you mean not saying anything critical or harsh about it, then yes - it can be disrespected.
5. Exactly!
6. If by "respect" you mean give you space to do what you want to practice your beliefs (as long as it doesn't harm anyone) then of course! Everybody should have the right to believe what they want to believe without being discriminated against.

cat,i believe i was obvious.
İ said its ok if anyone agree or disagree,eveyone is entitled to his/her opinion.
What i mean about respect the simple meaning..not to insult !

Thread: turkish piece of paper

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 06:16 pm

ok till now i didnt get what is Muska exactly ?
İs it a prayer which said by İmam or religious people
Or is it some rubbish stuff which people use it in the name of religion and suck other people's'less educated people' money for it as handsom's said ?!

Thread: turkish piece of paper

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 06:09 pm

Quoting catwoman:

I don't understand why does EVERYBODY at any time have to respect your beliefs??? I think that's unfair to those who disagree with you and have DIFFERENT beliefs.

İ must say that is one of the strangest questions i ever heared .
Well,because we are human and we tend to respect each other ?!
Because we dont live in a jungle which we should fight when we dont agree with each other ?
Respect someone beliefs is respecting the person himself
Because you represent your beliefs
You live,act accourding to what you believe or else you would be hypocrite,believing something and doing something else.
There is much difference between AGREE with that beliefs and RESPECT it.
Of course everyone has the right to agree or disagree ,that İS democracy.
But also,if you disagree , they still have the right you respect what they believe,and that İS democracy too.

Thread: turkish men

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 02:32 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Yeah I got that, I just think it's a bit vapid to say that it is risky to marry someone unattractive.

Well,i guess its quite the opposite,its risky to marry someone attractive 'many thx to all the Dude's ' hee hee
Ps:Edited.

Thread: turkish piece of paper

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 02:30 am

hee,hee,here males at high school,and Uni at exams times, they dont shave their beard till exams finished out of good luck ,and some dont change their clothes if they made well at the exams at one day,so they wear same T shirt and trousers or what ever at the rest of the exams ..hee hee
İn fact it was useful for us ,we used to locate them more easily hee hee

Thread: turkish men

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CANLI
5084 posts

13 Nov 2007 Tue 02:10 am

Quoting girleegirl:

I'm confused.

İ believe she was answering Karine post gg.

Quoting Karine:

If your fiance looks like a model and you're not and you know that this is impossible in your own country to find a man like him who will love you then... Stop it before it is too late. Don't let him disrespect you.

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