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Quoting vineyards: Pointing out to translation problems Aenigma asks why Quran can't be properly translated and why even Arabs misunderstand it: Arabic is full of equivocal words which produce immensely different meanings in different contexts.
This aspect of the Arabic language is somewhat in line with how Arabs generally are.
To make things more complicated, The Quran was written in Phasih Arabic, almost a separate language not spoken by the masses but vaguely understood.
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İ some how agree with that part,there would be some phrases need better explaination from İmam 'who is like a teacher of İslam whom studied arabic language as well'
But Fos'ha or formal arabic was the language spoken nowadays,so it was well understood by them,and it should be the language which we speak too as arabic speakers countries,but unfortunately we dont use in in our daily life thats why sometimes we 'as arabic speakers' need explanation for some words.
But as you see,there is Kur'an with explanation,signed from El-Azhar and as you know it is the ,oldest,biggest and largest İslamic Uni,and there is a committee of big,trusted,and well educated İmamlar to accept those explanations before authorise publishing to puplic ,so actually we dont trust any book,or anything related to religion without having good refrences.
As anyone can write anything and say it is in İslam,as it happen,and cause lots of problems and misunderstanding
so actually only people who cant read,or who are lazy to read tend to ask imamlar in persons about Kur'an meanings,but even tho İmamlar are there and will answer them,so nothing would cause misunderstanding if they seek the right source,and for that,its their own responsibility.
Quoting vineyards:
Add to that the fact that, The Qoran was first memorized by certain individuals the credibility of whom was said to be determined by a board of scholars. Some of the verses were eliminated and some were included, the wording depended on how well those people memorized the verses and it did not happen in prophet's life time nor did it happen before some 40-50 years. The Quran was first hand written on gazelle hide and sealed.
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Yes it hasnt been collected as it is now in Muhamed SAV time,but it's been written on his time ,as he ordered it from people arround him to write it down as they heared it from him
it has been collected from them after he SAV died ,and that is a big difference
So,im afraid what you are stating above is out of the question!
Quoting vineyards:
In addition to all this, there is a principle in the Islamic Faith called Taqiyye which means if your life is at stake, or if you think you are serving a good purpose such as the spreading of your faith then you are free to tell lies.
No one knows, what is true from an Islamic point of view (turban included) whether it is a taquiyye, translation problem or lack of IQ to properly understand it. |
İ dont know about that princible,but actually telling lies is HARAM forbidden in İslam by all means,except in some cases
Like when Muslim has been captured by his enemy in a war or something and they want information from him,and his life in danger if not telling so he can lie about it,or if he is threatened for being a muslim by people 'as happened in history' he is allowed to hide his faith and lie about it,if telling a thief lies to protect himself and family
Or,when a wife for example asks her husband if she looks wonderful,and he thinks she is away beyond it,he is allowed to lie about it
And as you see,that is logic,and if not doing so,that would be beyond it
BUT...to spread our faith by telling lies ?!
No ,never been allowed ,its still lies,and its forbbiden,actually,and its silly to do so too,because people who will become Muslims will discover the truth,so how come would such thing be allowed?
The other way arround,we MUST seek accuracy when talking about our religion,so we wont bear the burden of someone understood something wrong from something we've said.
So actually everything is clear in İslam 'even Turban' for people who want to know about it,and for those who doesnt want to know,they hide beyond such excuses.
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