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Quoting teaschip1: Egypt occupied Gaza from 1948 to 1967. However when Israel and Egypt signed their peace treaty in 1979, in which Egypt got back much of their land lost in the 1967 war, they didn’t push the issue to get Gaza back. Why not? Because Gaza was occupied by Palestinians, which Egypt didn’t want responsibility for.
The Arab countries have not wanted to take responsibility for the Palestinians. Why are most Palestinians still living in refuge camps, not only in “occupied†territory, but Arab countries as well? Are the Palestinians being used as pawns in the battle to exercise “right of return†which would eliminate Israel as we now know it?
Why did the Palestinians only resort to terror tactics once Israel “occupied†the territories? Why didn’t they use these tactics they are using today against Jordan in the West Bank and Egypt in Gaza? Why didn’t they attack the civilian populations of the same countries as the do in Israel?
What historical president is there for a country to return land won in a war? Remember how many wars there were between Israel and multiple Arab countries. The 1967 war was started by Israel, but only because they had information that an attack was pending by Jordan, Egypt and Syria. If Israeli land was now occupied by any of those countries would there be similar demands for them to return captured territory?
Are the Palestinians pawns? Sadly, yes. Should they act as a state if they want to be treated as such? Yes. Are they (Hammas) doing so? No. Is there some blame for Israel for the current situation? Yes. Are they the only ones with such responsibility? No.
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Actually,im afraid to say you got your base wrong,thats why you got your conclusions as wrong too!
First of all Egypt didnt OCCUPY Gaza from 1948 to 1967,because both Egypt and Gazza were occupied with GREAT BRİTİAN !
We just kicked them out from our lands in 1956,and then we got attacked by the 2 GREAT countries Britian and France and of course İsrael didnt miss that chance !
And on 1956 it was the time when UN devided Palastin into 2 parts,İsraelian and Arab.
So it was ,we take the responsibiliy of Gaza and keep the Palastinian live there,or İsrael have it and kick them out as she did to the others...
Thats why Palastinian live in other countries,because they have been kicked out of their country !
So Gazah was and still a Palastinian land ...and the responsibility of it goes to the Palastinian people not to anyone else !
Thats why when we signed our peace treaty in 1979 we didnt include Gazah too because we are not the one who should talk about it,but we suggested one to the Palastinians,and they refused it ...
İt was their decision..wrong or right,they carry its responsibility
''The Arab countries have not wanted to take responsibility for the Palestinians ''
İ guess you NEED to read more history before you made such comments,our blood are there in the Palastinian land in 1948 was flowing like river there..
That blood which we paid for it through the years,and in all our wars no one can deny,NOT even the palastinians
So i guess before you made such comment,and take people's rights,you need to read some history,they were our fathers and grandfathers,uncles who died there with honor
And their blood was not that cheep so you can easily come and say, ''Egypt didnt want to have responsibility for Palastinians ''
We didnt pay little,it was with high price and we've paid it...
You didnt even think once how Palastinians got that name ?
İ mean ,you are American,and your country is USA 'America' im Egyptian,and my country is Egypt
They are Palastinian...where is Palastin ?
Did you think it was a ghost or something ?a fairy tail ?
No dear...NO..it was there and exist before they took it from the Palastinians,and it İS there and STİLL exist.
So NO,and BİG NO...no one is going to take the responsibility of the Palastinians,NO one is going to take the responsibility of Gazah,because it has its own people,and Palastinians have their own country
They want live there,and fight for their land...
And no one,NO ONE can deny them that right !
To say,out of humanity we 'other countries not just us' must have them in our lands and give them home and shelters,that is like putting the poison in the honey.
İts not kindness or tenderness,its another invaid for their right to have their land!
They are and were welcome to live here ' in Egypt'they go to our schools,live among us ,with us..they are most welcome.
But they HAVE their land...and they want it.
İts not what WE want,its what THEY want
You cant just kick someone out of his home,then ask his neighbours out of humanity,to have them..and at same time forbid him to have or be in his home !
We welcome them,we host them,but they still want their home...can you blame them ?!
''Are the Palestinians being used as pawns in the battle to exercise “right of return†which would eliminate Israel as we now know it?''
Actually,i dont understand even the question !
Used by who ? and the right of return to whom ?!!!!
They..THE PALASTİNİANS are fighting to HAVE THEİR right of return to THEİR LANDS !
İts not a game,or something funny they ask for,they are people have been kicked out of THEİR country,and they fight to go back
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Why did the Palestinians only resort to terror tactics once Israel “occupied†the territories? Why didn’t they use these tactics they are using today against Jordan in the West Bank and Egypt in Gaza? Why didn’t they attack the civilian populations of the same countries as the do in Israel? ''
Because we ALL were under the authority of GREAT BRİTİAN
WE didnt take anyone's land...unlike İsrael...i guess that is why they fighting İsrael and didnt fight us ?!
We ALL were invaded by Britian,and we didnt have our choices in our hands.
GOD !
''What historical president is there for a country to return land won in a war? Remember how many wars there were between Israel and multiple Arab countries. The 1967 war was started by Israel, but only because they had information that an attack was pending by Jordan, Egypt and Syria. If Israeli land was now occupied by any of those countries would there be similar demands for them to return captured territory? ''
Then if Mixco,took over the USA,you will just leave it to them and find yourself another nice country ?
Sorry,we dont work this way,OUR country İS OUR country,we pay our blood for it...
And so are the Palastinians too
return captured territory for İsrael...!
Hmmm,let me get this straight,İsrael wasnt exist before 1948,do you think its was an empty land there,with no people living in,with no name and identity? İsrael took their land on 1948 with a promise from who has no right to give what is not his!
İt was a promise from Britian,and when Palastinian take their land back from İsrael,then,they should give it back to İsrael again ?!
By any law ?!
And you know something ?
Palastinians dont demand even to have their whole land back,they just ask for what UN desided,for half of their lands,and even that,they cant have!
And the little what they already have,they fight for it,and you say WE should carry their responsibilities and have them in our countries,and they should leave their country!
WHAT YOU ACCEPT FOR YOURSEL,ACCEPT FOR OTHERS!
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