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Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 06:25 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

So you believe since the US & UK are in Iraq, WE have a responsibility to Turkey. Why in the world would we want to discrupt Northern Iraq.

One need only to go to a place like Irbil, up north in Kurdistan, to see (what's) possible - an Iraqi city that is vibrant, has high employment and a flourishing economy. It's almost like walking down the streets of a typical European city, with restaurants and shops and car dealerships. It's a thriving place, and I believe that is a demonstration of what is possible hopefully for the rest of Iraq.

Because of some deaths, you think our military is going to help Turkey in destroying what we helped rebuild.. That is just crazey!

So if Northern America attacked Canada,the US army wont interfear because you dont want to disturbe Northern America ?!

That is absurd !

İt İS İraq responsibility like it or not !
And your military is NOT going to help Turkey,it should take responsibility of what it's done, in destroying a country...İRAQ !

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

2512.

CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 06:16 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting AEnigma III:

If you dont want religious debate, then DONT POST THINGS LIKE THIS!!!!

Quoting CANLI:

They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.

Things like this ?!
What this has to do with religions debat ?
Muslim people died,and we condole them that way,that is what WE Muslims believe ...so what this has to do with debating ?!
What are you arguing about here ?!

OK, I accept that you do not understand what is offensive about this. This is not a muslim website, but you quote such things as FACT. Its your BELIEF not FACT.

This site about TÃ¼rkiye which %99 of them are Muslim and some of their soldiers had died !

You've started this thread talking about Turkish soldiers,and i posted paying my respect and condolence too in our way.
That is nothing to offend you,or indecating anything religiouse
İ dont know why did you get so sensetive about it .

Here in another thread when they ask for trnslation to concole Turkish friends
MrX used same word 'şehit',because that is what we call them

Quoting MrX67:

umarım şehitler huzur iÃ§inde dinlenir ve bu terÃ¶r sona erer.

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:58 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

If you dont want religious debate, then DONT POST THINGS LIKE THIS!!!!

Quoting CANLI:

They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:50 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting AEnigma III:

İ will PM you,as i said,i dont want to open a religious debat

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:46 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I can't wait for our soldiers to return home and get the hell out of Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries. Leave the fighting in the name of Allah & land for these countries to battle.

İ cant wait for that too tea.

İ asked why the US or UK doesn't intervene? because they are already there,lets not fool ourselves
US and UK rules İraq !
That government is phony,a nice and good puppet in US and UK hands .

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:40 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Other religions pray for "all the people in the world". Nice difference

Are you sure of that ?

Look,lets not make it a religious debats ok ?

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:38 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?!

Hahahahahaha! I just KNEW IT! I just KNEW it would be the fault of US and UK before long....

Aferin sana ! lol

But its not a joke AEnigma,
İts İraq responsibility to stop the terrorism from their country,but we cant demand İraq of that now, can we ?!
Even if we did,they cant do it !
And btw,it IS the fault of US and UK for long ,since they've been in Iraq, that is a FACT.

How do you stop all terrorism. Yes I agree that the UK should not be in Iraq. However, you cannot try to blame them for terrorist attacks. Do you blame Turkey for PKK attacks on tourist resorts last year?

You didnt get it,
İ blam them for İraq not having an army,i dont blam them for terrorist attacks !
İ blam them because TÃ¼rkey has to enter this war to defend herself,but the right thing was İRAQ should stop it,not TÃ¼rkey
İts in İraqian landÃ§its their own responsibility.
Cant you see what a mess this is ?
İn the law,if TÃ¼rkiye attcked PKK in İraqian land,we should blam her,because she crossed the borders,but we DO NO blam her,because if TÃ¼rkiye didnt defend herself no one else would do
There is no İraqian army .
İts a MESS

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:30 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?!

Hahahahahaha! I just KNEW IT! I just KNEW it would be the fault of US and UK before long....

Aferin sana ! lol

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:17 pm

İ had this post in one of the translation requests,and i thought to post it here to have your opinion about it too.

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting alperrr:

i hope soo .. Turkish army know what they do about this situation. dont worry, we will do that. these terorists wont kill any turkish soldier anymore...

İ believe as much as i for one was aginist the army interfere in Politics ' in the last election',but this is the army ground,and we all have faith,and trust in the Turkish army.
Just my heart goes out for them ...i wish they dont have to fight and things ends peacfully.

peace is best fix as you said Canlı,but some of blood drinkers can't imagine this wonderfull value with their closed hearts&minds

İts not closed hearts and minds,its called interests !

Some people and i like the term you used 'blood drinkers 'as you called them benefit behinde wars,and they just try to pull the flame any where their interist is.
İ wish they dont find ground for them there and let this war ends before it starts.
But i must ask,as those torrerist are in the İraqian land, then where is the İraqian army to stop them ?!
İsnt that more appropriate ?

And as we know there is no İraqian army because they are under both the USA and UK protection.. they call it that way dont they ?
So why didnt USA and UK take part in the country they are protecting and bringing justice,democracy to it and stop it from attacking its neighbours ?!
Or maybe there are other calculations ?!
When Turkiye enter the war,the pressure from İraq will go down in both USA and UK sides ?!
So better have another part in İraq like TÃ¼rkiye ?
mmmm,i dont know,what do you think ?

Thread: Turkish soldiers killed at border today...

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CANLI
5084 posts

22 Oct 2007 Mon 05:11 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting CANLI:

They are in Heaven now of course,they are Şahid,and that is best degree in İslam.

Maybe its not always clear to those who have a deep faith, but this kind of thing is VERY offensive to non-muslims. You have your religion and faiths, we have ours.

Who is deserving of being in "heaven" depends on God/Allah - not some man-made section of religious faith.

(I know you would not cause offence deliberately Canli, but I had to express my view)

İm sorry AEnigma,i dont see how offensive can that be ?
We are talking about Turkish soldiders,which %99 of Turk are Muslims,and even in my reply to femme's post,i was talking about Muslims.
Even they practice or not,but in a war if they die they are Şahid,and they are in Heaven.
That is something condoling to think about,that they are in better place than we already are.
And i can say their familes believe so too.
İ didnt say Muslims are in Heaven and other people are not !
İ just said they are Şahid and in Heaven,that İS what we believe.
Other religions,or non Muslims can believe what they want too,how could this be offensive to them ?!

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