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28 Sep 2007 Fri 10:47 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: Quoting KeithL: Turkey is over 99% muslim of course. And throughout the country, there are regions that are more religous than others. In Istanbul, Beyoglu and Taksim are know for nightlife. Everyone knows this, practicing muslims and non-practicing muslims alike know this. So anyone that chooses to visit this area (even during Ramazan), they should expect to see people that are not fasting.
I do agree that you should respect the area that you are in. Most areas of Istanbul, it would not be appropriate during Ramazan to drink water, smoke or eat in public. But Istiklal is not one of these places.... |
What is respect got to do with it?
Or what is area got to do with it?
or what is 99% got to do with it?
It is a secular state. I have right to eat or smoke anywhere at anytime. And the state is responsible to give me that freedom.
What are you going to if they say 'no..we dont like skirts on the streets, because they are offending my religion' or 'no.. you cant walk on the street during pray times. Because offending my religion'.
Religion is between the person and what they believe. It is as simple as that.
I dont believe the guy drinking in Taksim should be seen as as a person that disrespects the religion.
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İ believe KeithL here meant respect for people themselves not for religion..
First,secular state or not secular state,what keithL has posted here it has NOTHİNG to do with religion nor İslam.
There is no Ayat,NOTHİNG in İslam gives anyone the right to judge and punish anyone for order or something between the person and ALLAH.
İ mean,Praying Fasting,Paying Zakat,Hej,and even being Muslim is something between the person and ALLAH,NO one has the authority to judge and punish such actions.
So,if i dont pray,they can drag me to jail ?!
Thats absurd !
But of course there is respect,and that is between people and each others,out of kind feelings toword eachothers.
İ mean here we are not %99 Muslims,we are about %80 Muslims and %20 Christians living together.
And when Ramadan comes,Muslims dont eat,and Christians do of course,but if there are colleagues standing together,at school,Uni,work or something,you wouldnt find any Christian eating infront of Muslims even if it is lunch time,they do it while not being with Muslims,and at same times Muslims try to give them their privacy at that times so they wont feel bad while they are eating and their Muslim colleagues dont.
That is respect between people,no religion ordered it,but its coming from our human nature ,and its a lovely thing of course.
İslam doesnt say to judge or punish people for what they do or for what they wear,its their personal choice and they will carry its burden infront of ALLAH at the end of days.
And if AK Parti follow what İslam says,then they wouldnt agree on such actions which is far away from İslam.
And please,dont accuse religion for any actions made by anyone and say see that is what religions brought us !
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