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Thread: Buddhist marry Muslim

2981.       CANLI
5084 posts
 04 May 2007 Fri 03:33 pm

Quoting kat007:




My mom is a housewife and I had no respect for her "position" for a long time, I always use to tell her that she should have a career and more ambition. I even said things like I hate cooking and cleaning,...I don't want to do that and I'll get a maid for that. But I am starting to have an appreciation for motherhood despite my not wanting to give up my freedom or to ever be a housewife.

In Islam, when asked who is the most important person in a family... the answer is "mothers" and the prophet said "mother, mother, mother" then "father" so that role is important and that's why the children are so respectful of their parents.



You know that in İslam housework NOT woman responsibility ?

Woman responsibilities only to manage the house and to rais the kids and take care of them and her husband.

And for all houseworks man should hire a maid or 2 accourding to his wealth and house needs.

And if he couldnt afford,because he's poor or something,then woman does houseworks and he helps her when he comes from work.
And be GRATEFUL to her too.

Because raising the kids and make them good individuals is a very hard work and even not equivalent to the man work but more important too.

Thats why in hadith Rasul said that when a man asked him who is the most one i should care for,Rasul said your mother for 3 times then said your father.

Rasul Muhamed SAV was helping his wife,and sewing his clothes too.

Come to reality how many of Muslims men think and do that now ?!

But at least women should understand when she does a house work,she is doing her husband and her kids a favor,not a duty !



Thread: Buddhist marry Muslim

2982.       CANLI
5084 posts
 04 May 2007 Fri 03:08 pm

İslam as any other religions consist of rules,and those rules are NOT negotiable.

Maybe you could've done it if we were at prophets time,but unfortunately Muhamed SAV and Christ RA have died !

So if we follow the rules all,we would be good Muslims or Christians or what ever !

İf we dont follow,its between us and ALLAH.

But at least be honest and say we know and dont follow,and dont hide behinde 'there is no ayat in Kor'an'

No there is ayat,if you dont know,its your responsibility,if you dont understand its also your responsibility.

As you see,in Kor'an there is ayat said Father,or Uncle should marry the girl,that was for a reason,and it didnt say its forbidden the girl marry herself.
What did people understand ?
That its haram'forbidden' a girl marry herself !

There are teachers of each religion 'İmam ,priests,...'
And there are the Holy books make them explain to you !

And if you dont want to obay ,then say i dont do obay,dont day its not there !

We're not kids,at least carry on responsibilities of what you're doing,or not doing.

We are mature enough to do that...i think !



Thread: Buddhist marry Muslim

2983.       CANLI
5084 posts
 04 May 2007 Fri 02:55 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Quoting jamila:

of course you have to be amuslim



I don't get the 'of course' part. Let everyone make their own choice, have their rights in believing what they want or not. Again I agree so much with karekin who said: http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_11_7983_106



İts not achoice to agree on the of course part or not Trudy.
They are talking about rules in İslam,so its not negotiable!

İf i say Salat is must in İslam for 5 times at the day,someone will say 3 are enough and start negotiate ?!

İts a RULE !



Thread: Buddhist marry Muslim

2984.       CANLI
5084 posts
 04 May 2007 Fri 02:50 pm

Quoting mltm:


You cannot say that there're no laws, if we're talking about the laws in the Kuran, yes, there's such a law that a muslim girl is only allowed to marry a muslim man, but it's up to you to respect this rule or not.



+1000000

Yes,that is true,Muslim girl can't marry other man except Muslim man,and

Muslim man is allowed only to marry a woman with a holly book,meaning

Muslim,Christian,Jewish, not anything else.

And YESSS,its in Kor'an not just in Hadith too

İ suggest for those who argue is to read Kur'an....and UNDERSTAND!

And btw,Muslim girl can marry without her father or uncle permission.
İts not haram.

When its written her father marry her,or uncle,that was for virgins,because in the old days girls were shy to say i want to marry this man infront of people so she tells her father or uncle that she accept.

And last,in İslam we should respect our parents of course and do what they want but not for a personal bases.
İ mean,if Father said something we should obay,but if he told his son to divorce his wife,then if the son didnt obay is that haram ?!

Of course NOT !

There was a post here,and its more than logic,if you need a teacher to understand Math ,or even to study Language,so of course you ned a teacher to understand what you read,and dont understand it well,or understand it wrong

So,how come you dont need same in İslam or Kur'an?!
You see yourself better than mathe teacher or language teacher ?
Why do you think you understand better than İmam ?

Read first,understand firts,then start to have own opinion.

How can you have opinion in something you dont understand ?!



Thread: Buddhist marry Muslim

2985.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:39 pm

In marriage we have 2 seperates laws,one for Muslims and other for Christians.
And i guess it cannt be both way.
But i dont know for sure,so that i will check it and feed it back to you.

Its Haram by Islam of course,but i dont know about the law.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

2986.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:34 pm

Quoting KeithL:

How can you criticize Turkish government, when your government doesnt have real elections? This is specifically what I am asking.


Ok,if your brother is lying,you will admire other people for lying and consider lying not wrong ?!
Close ?!
And that is exactly the reason,glad about the Turkish experience in Democracy and hate to see it blown away with an army threat !

Anladin mi ?
I wish !



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

2987.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:32 pm

Quoting mltm:

Yes, I agree that we lack a lot of knowledge about muslim countries, we consider most of them equal to İran, and see all the muslims equal to talibans.
And we including the turks are prejudiced against especially the arabs. We consider all of the arabs as a one nation. We look down upon them and refuse to learn more about them. All of my turkish friends made fun of me when I told them I was going out with an arab.
I have noticed this lack of knowledge in me and lately I have started to be more interested in these countries and people. That doesn't mean that I admire their unseculiar regimes, but there are other things to admire.


I agree with that too.
I've noticed it.
There is one thing i must point it too,there is difference between Egyptians and Arabs.
Egyptians are not Arabs,Arabs are the people who lived original in deserts.
Egyptians were always here,beside our Nile



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

2988.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:29 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Canli, Egypt doesnt have real elections. How can you say your country emulates french government?


Ohh KeithL,review my post again,have i said french government?
Or i said french law ?

You are just arguing with me and didnt even bother to read my post ...
Ok, there are diffence of having almost the same law,and applying it same way !

I wish there was a copy of it in English so it would spare me all that kind of arguments!

I will search,maybe i find and i will send you the link .



Thread: Buddhist marry Muslim

2989.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:15 pm

Ok, you mean you apply Islam rules as it written in Kur'an in your life but you dont use them in laws.
And it is people's choices to follow them or not .
Yes ?

ALLAH will ask everyone for himself,and wont ask everyone for the other.
People are grown up know the right from the wrong and its their own choices .
I agree for that.



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

2990.       CANLI
5084 posts
 02 May 2007 Wed 01:09 pm

You know,now i understood that you dont know anything about Muslim countries but you are still talking about them !
I dont mean just you ,mltm but all !

What should really be called Muslim Country is the only country is applying the islamic law "Shari'a"

And that goes for only 2 country Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Other countries not using Shari'a in their laws most of them using the French law as main recourse.

Therefor they are not ruled by an Islamic government.
Same in Egypt,our law is form from our needs,and from the French law as main recourse

As for our army,Elhamdulillah we have a strong army protecting our nation,our borders from our enemies.

And lead many wars ends just 30 yrs ago by Peace agreement between us.

To tell you the differences between the countries it needs lots of time and space,and this thread not its place.
You really need much to know,for you are mixing things up.

If you search you will get an idea,and if any need further information PM me,and i will help if i can.



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