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Thread: İ have an opinion......

3021.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 11:22 pm

A sentence in another thread,made me explode made me think,Oh God when will it end,when will we,women have our own rights and freedom they way it should be!

Men try always to control women,and women for centuries have been fighting for their freedom TİLL NOWWW.

Men see women as a doll,just a doll they can control it.

İn the past,they covered her,and not allow women even to go out alone,then not allow them to go out without wearing millions and millions of things to cover them up,then women gained their freedom and took off covers and become in charge.

Or that what they thought ! Grrrrr

Now men controlling women by NOT allowing them to wear what they want AGAİN

But the other way arround !

And some women blindly following them

God,its our own freedom,the menimum thing is just to have control on yourself,the way you think,the way you look!

And here im talking about Hijab .

İ'll tell you a little story,

Here is allowed for women to wear what ever they want,Hijab or stomachless,tight or not tight,whatever,no body cares.
But of course not walking naked,cause people wont accept that far!
And to make you understand better,here girls when they wear Hijab,they dont wear a wide dress and headscarf like Arab countries
Girls wear everything,even tight clothes,short scarves,as long as they are covering their bodies,then its ok
Not all of course but majority.

Anyway,im wearing Hijab,modern style too,and i wanted to change my job to a better one.
So i started to look at the news papers for a good job in the private business.

So,i found those 2 words in the job requirements ''NOT VEİLED'
İ got mad,but then i made my choice and no one would force me the other way,even a good job and good position!

Then i called some company,a big one for an admin position,those 2 words were not included in their addy.
But i told the HR manager btw,im veiled,i wear Hijab.

He said ''ok,i dont mind,i have nothing against it.

But how do you wear it ?
Women is a beautiful creature,and its waste to cover her beauty,but sometimes covering up in some way would make her even look more beautiful!''

İ practically insulted him and hanged up !

When will men STOP looking at woman as a doll?!!
When will they stop trying to indicate things on us,what to wear what to do,or what NOT to wear ?!

When will they understand deep down inside them we have our own minds which are very perfect and some times better than their minds and we can make our own choices ?!

Btw,the sentence was 'Off course she was reported and dismissed from the job'

No need to say that was because she was veiled !





Thread: Grrrrrrr - What is bugging you today?!

3022.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 10:50 pm

MEN......MEN........MEN

God,not only bugging me but making me MAD!

Men STİLL see women as a doll and try to control her !



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3023.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 10:42 pm


KeithL.....
My words are very clear,and no need to prediction.

İ didnt say i hate Atatürk,i didnt even talk about him.
İ said in any case Army should NOT threat a governmet.

İ said army SHOULD be ruled by governmet.

So,where did you get the idea of me hate Atatürk from ?!

Why do you all leave the main issue and talk about branches ?

Who said we are discussing the 4 laws or something like that ?

The point was,a government has been elected by people should only rule both people and army.

İf the people dont want it,then dont elect it !

Tell me again,where did you get the Atatürk issue from ?

Does anyone say something you dont agree with,you accuse him/her of hating Atatürk even if the issue not been brought up ?!



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3024.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 09:54 pm

Quoting erdinc:

Off course she was reported and dismissed from the job.


You really hate veiled women !

Omg,do you see that justice ?!
To bane her for what she chose to wear ?!

People are FREE,free to have their own ideas,to do what they want,free to wear what they want.

people've been borne free,why chaining them ?!

İf they want to cover up and walk in the streets,let them,if they want to walk naked,then let them too!

Ohh God and you argue about secularism ?!

You afraid that an İslamic governmet rules people accourding to their believes,but you want to rule people accourding to your believes too.

You afraid İslamic government will bane women who not wearing Hijab and force them,and you bane women who wear Hijab and force them the other way,to take it off!

İ dont understand the logic!

Both are same to me,but in opposite directions,and both are taking women freedom away !

Pity



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3025.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 09:32 pm

Quoting ruthless87:


I was wondering who controls the army and who chooses all the generals?


+100000
Exactly,no way it would be the government !
As if the Army is an independent Organization been ruled by the army itself!
So who is in charge ?!



Thread: Turk to Eng please

3026.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 06:14 pm

Thats lovely ,lol
Thanks Ayla for translating it .



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3027.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 01:42 pm

Quoting erdinc:

We will fix the problems. Don't you worry. Those Arab admirers in Turkia can be sure they will pay for their actions.


İ dont understand who you refer to by saying Arab admirers,surely not the army
Then you must've meant the government,but i didnt see any action or anything from the governmet toward Arab countries more than normal between countries.
All the government interest in one direction EU .

Beside,this sentence is very much racism to me really.

Who admire Arab will pay for it.

How nice,that too is what secularism said ?

İ thought you with the government not against it,specially that you represent it as i understood!



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3028.       CANLI
5084 posts
 01 May 2007 Tue 01:23 pm

Quoting KeithL:

I dont know where you get your information from. People bussed in from all regions of turkey for both events, not only Istanbul and Ankara. And I'm sure you are aware that Istanbul and Ankara are the two largest cities. Between them, they represent about 25% of the country's population.
And soon, there will be a rally in Germany by Turks who live there, also against AK Party.
Look who is against the AK party gaining the presidency. It is the well educated Turks. University staff, business leaders, senior military staff. Do you think these people are stupid?
Not living in Turkey, where do you form your opinion on this subject?



İ get my information from Turkish people not only live in İstanbul and Ankara .

And i dont really understand what you aim for .

Do you say only well educated people, University staff, business leaders, senior military staff have rights for election and choose who is their leaders,and other people NOT ?!!

İ dont think all those people are stupid,i think everyone entitled to his opinion whether he is well educated or NOT!

Beside everyone of those got his own agenda which indicate his opinion.

And rally in Germany by Turks who are living there away from their home land not feeling the achievement that their current government which been elected by poeple of Türkiye did,what would that say ?!!!

And i wonder those Turk who live in Germany where do they form their opinion about this subject from ?!!!

You are living in İstanbul,then where do you form your opinion about what other people who live outside think ?!

İ guess those are not logic questions,right ?!



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3029.       CANLI
5084 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:54 am

Turkiye is only Istanbul and Ankara ?!
Why dont you see and listen to others too not just people who are in picture?!



Thread: Turkey cannot turn its back on democracy

3030.       CANLI
5084 posts
 30 Apr 2007 Mon 10:35 am

But Erdogan has been elected by people,wont that say anything at all ?
Like maybe they want him ??!!!
I dont really know what is the problem,
People of Turkiye will say what they want, why to control that by an army threat ?



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