Quoting KeithL:

What about my egyptian colleagues not being able to join me in certain hotel restaurants? Is this the islamic freedom you are speaking of?

Quoting KeithL:

I am not an expert at all on cairo.
But, here are a few of my observations.
I stay at Nile hilton and other hotels similar in that area. These hotels have bars and casinos. My egyptian colleagues are not allowed to join me. You must have a foreign passport to enter.
The only place I know where there are pubs is on the island where the consualtes are. So alcohol is not so freely available.
Segregated subways. Women in front only, no men.

I am not saying these are bad laws for cairo. but i donot wish to see them come to istanbul.

Nude beaches in Cairo? Did I miss soemthing?

Quoting KeithL:

Cairo lives under islamic law and is living the way most cities did 50 years ago.

Quoting KeithL:

Comparing Dubai to typical Arab cities is ridiculous. Lets look at damascus, tehran, bahgdad, cairo, these kinds of cities for comparison.

Quoting erdinc:

Many Islamic countries are hundreds of years behind civilization. In many Islamic countries females are considered like objects to be bought and sold. They have no rights at all. They have no right to chose the man they are going to marry, no right to vote, no right for inheritance, no right for modern education, no right to work, no right to chose where they live, no right to divorce (asking for divorce would be main reason for killing them).

In many Islamic countries even a cow is considered more valuable than girls. Females are not even counted as children of a family. In many of those countries if you ask a man how many children he has he might say five. This means he has five sons. They don't count the girls. Girls will be sold when they become 13.

Ottomans have ruled those countries for hundreds of years. Those are our neighbours. We have a responsibility in those lands to help our neighbours. We need to help them to become more modern.

For now let's solve our domestic problems but in the future we are going to help our neigbours. Don't worry, with time we'll fix them.

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Quoting KeithL:

Canli, I'm not saying you hate Ataturk. You may not even know who Ataturk is..