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Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

361.       Loveprague
627 posts
 18 May 2007 Fri 12:49 pm

Quoting Trudy:

Loveprague, you're not the only one. Here in Holland there are many people having the same problems. I know there are many forums with questions similar like yours, but I'm afraid all in Dutch. Still I think you can try this one http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/forum/ and click on the upper right side on 'English forum'. Even it is about the Netherlands, probably - because of Schengen - many things are the same, and 'buitenlandse partner' means 'foreign partner'. There is also another site you can try: http://www.taliha-turkije-forum.com/index.php Dutch as well but I think most members speak English and maybe they can give you advice. On that last site scroll down until you reach 'toeristenvisum', I think you can post there your questions. I hope it all works well at the end for you and your fiancee.



Hi Trudy,
Yes Trudy I have read before about many other people having problems and in particular Dutch people it is not easy process to obtain a visa to visit so much is taken into context when applying for a simple visa and lots of things can happen in between especially the interview stage, thanks I will look at the links you gave
Best wishes Loveprague

Quoting shel_b_ann:

I had the same experience (in regards to the sponsor not being contacted)....

I find it disgusting that they seem to make no effort to contact the sponsor.

How can say that they are not satisfied that the applicant has sufficient funds if they haven't even contacted the person who is providing this financial support i.e sponsor!?!!



Hi Shel_b_ann,
It is just very wrong that they did not contact the sponsor in your case and mine it just shows a lack of competance and it is very annoying and should be addressed I think that is why I am getting my local M.P. involved to express my concern of the flaws in consulate interviews.

Quoting lovebug:

Hi Richard,

I also am very sorry to hear your news. I too, like Christine, have opted for the K-1 visa. Yilmaz and I now only need to send the final paperwork to the US Embassy in Ankara and receive an interview date.

For Christine and I, the process seemed to move quite fast. I do know that not everyone's process goes as fast. We were both lucky to have a quick office here in the states. (some are much slower)

It would be a good idea to PM Christine as I know she has spent many a long night researching all that is necessary. I will keep you and Nersin in my prayers

Hi Lovebug,
Thanks for your reply I am really very touched that so many people on the forum have given me and Nesrin real support during this what should be happy time for us, good luck for you and Yilmaz
Richard

Quoting gezbelle:

hi loveprague,
unfortunately i can't offer any advice.

the only thing i can do is wish you both lots and lots of luck.



Thankyou gezbelle,

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

I know that we, Turks, are not welcome to many EU countries.
And I also agree that they have good reasons for that.

But I really couldn't understand these;

1. She did not have enough funds in her current bank account to suffice being able to support herself during her 10 day holiday in the U.K.
2. There was not enough contact between us to deem we have a serious relationship.

Enough funds ? Enough for what ? What about his/her willing to spend his/her money there ? I can have a bank account with lots of 0's but I may not have the will of spending my money in UK. Maybe I am willing to add more 0's to my bank account.
I had the same problem when I applied for student's visa in Korea. But they asked a bank account at a Korean bank. It took some days to transfer money from my bank to a Korean bank. Money is always transferable. Then I transferred it back to my Turkish bank. Well, I had the money transfer fee loss though.
So it is a good idea to transfer some money to her account, larger the amount bigger the chance. Well, depending on the trust between you.
Most of the times people do this trick. Even they don't have 1 euro in their account, there are people becoming rich in 1 day having some ten thousands of euros in their account. And banks accept future-orders. Say, the money can be transferred back to suppliers automatically after some time passed or there is internet banking so you can transfer the money back to suppliers when you get there.

But money is important. Although it is an easy process to make your bank account look fat. Meaningless though.

If she has a lot of money in her bank account, it may be easy to pass second problem of yours. Rich people don't need serious relationships.

As the second advise; if she is employed in a company, or a student at a school, it would be nice to supply those papers to the embassy. So, they can understand that he/she will come back after some time due to his/her job, school etc...

I assume you already provided a letter of invitation and sponsorship to her.

Well, that's all I can think of now.

My best wishes and good luck,



Hi SunFlowerSeed,
I read your reply with some intrest when you had a problem with obtaining a student visa in Korea. The bank where she works have given her plenty of help they even contacted her. I did also provide a letter of sponsorship sunflower but they did not even look at it she said so that is very unfair.
Thanks best wishes



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

362.       Loveprague
627 posts
 18 May 2007 Fri 12:29 pm

Quoting christine_usa:

Dear Lover Prague,

I agree with Teachship completely. I toured Turkey last summer on a teachers scholarship, and extended my stay to explore the country and sail. Long story short- I fell madly in love with my sailor, and we have spoken every day since. I also spent two weeks over Christmas with my Omer, and did the whole family thing.


I discovered from my tour guide (who has a masters, is married to a Turkish woman who works for the government, and speaks four languages, and owns a $250, 000. 00 apartment in Ankara) that a tourist visa is impossible to attain. My tour guide has been waiting 3 years for approval to go to Manhattan with his wife for two weeks.

EU countries and the USA are doing everything they can to prevent "undesireables" from entering, as they tax our economic system.

Knowing this, and how much Omer and I love each other- we sought a K-1 fiance visa. I am spending 9 weeeks in Turkey with Omer, and if we receive the visa- he will come in October to the USA. I am delighted to report, that we passed all 4 stages of the process, and have an interview date in June.

The way the K-1(fiance visa) works is that your fiance enters your home country, and you have 90 days to marry.

Another alternative for you is the K-3 visa, where you can marry your loved one, and apply for citizenship.

I'm so sorry you've had such hard luck with the visa. Please PM me- I know an awful lot about this process as OMer and I are going through it!

Chin up,
Christine



Hi Christine,
I have read your reply and am really pleased you now have the interview in June, very good luck with that as regards to marrying Nesrin we have talked about this very often and both feel this is not the right time to get married just yet, the fact that Nesrin has not come to England really plays a huge factor in this as with everyone's family they have yet to meet Nesrin in person. I will shortly P.M. you Christine thankyou.



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

363.       Loveprague
627 posts
 17 May 2007 Thu 09:45 pm

Hi all,
I have just spoken to my fiancee Nesrin and she told me some very lax consulate interviewer for start she did not even look at her sponsorship letter and check all her documents fully, surely there is a complaints procedure about this. I also have talked to my local councillor who is now away from the bench he told me that in many cases of holiday visa's being granted they have to make contact with the sponsor yet I received no phone call or e-mail



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

364.       Loveprague
627 posts
 17 May 2007 Thu 07:40 pm

Quoting azade:

Sorry to hear about this It is clear that the authorities are doing what they can to keep everyone out of the country, but it is possible to beat them. Provide them with all the information you can and possibly, even, transfer some money to Nesrin's bank account. That's what we have to do every time.
I hope you will succeed soon. It is possible



Azade,
Thanks for your reply yes maybe that is a better idea to transfer money into her account this shows she has some solid bank balance


Quoting karekin04:

Perhaps maybe you can also print off posts from here since it is obvious she has been your girlfriend for over a year? How terrible for you, hope everything works out



Hi Karen04,
Yes of course all this information helps with a slight chance they will review the re-submitted application. I am feeling sadness and got offered a job also today so the better news would have been her visa acceptance, oh well we will try again.



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

365.       Loveprague
627 posts
 17 May 2007 Thu 07:37 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

I'm sorry to hear your situation. The government is mostly concern by foreigners entering into their country and not being able to finacially support themselves, if they decide not to leave. Over the years this has taken a toll & burden on the U.K. I really don't believe it has to do with providing proof of your relationship. I do understand the UK has an appeals process, however the research I found wasn't very encouraging.

Due to heavy workloads, Entry Clearance or Visa Officers tend to either issue or turn down visa applications on first sight. In other words, it is not usually a process of negotiation with applicants being asked to come back with more documentation. There is a right of appeal but, in practice, this is of very limited use.

What you need to demonstrate:
To successfully obtain a visa you will need to able to show that:
• you want to visit the UK for no more than six months
• you will leave the UK at the end of your visit / legitimate stay, and
• you have enough money / financial capacity to cover all your needs during your stay in the UK without working or needing any help from UK public funds.

Hopefully, you can talk to the right person and see if this can get rectified. I wish you the best!




Thanks Teaschip,
We will try all these options of course



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

366.       Loveprague
627 posts
 17 May 2007 Thu 07:35 pm

Quoting Elisa:

Quoting Loveprague:

please somebody offer advice my world has been torn by these consulate wreckers of lives



Oh dear, I wish a had a ready-made solution for you but I haven't..
I'm sure other people here will be able to help you.
I wish you loads of luck


Thanks Eliza anyway the reply is very welcome



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

367.       Loveprague
627 posts
 17 May 2007 Thu 05:08 pm

Hi everyone,
Thanks so much for your support and your replies it means alot to me and Nesrin. I have requested that we re-submit our application for a new visa and provide the information they require which is the two points on her refusal form. I have contacted them several times with very little advice or help provided and cannot understand all their refusal reasons, I also am taking this further and have contacted my local MP. for parliament we are surely being used as a scapegoat for all the illegal immigrants U.K. has let in during the years and with us being a genuine law abiding couple we get punished for all the other breakers of law illegal immigrants. I will take this as far as I can I will not give in, we are just talking a holiday here something that the consulate are not really understanding in their decision, they did not once contact me for any confirmation about these decisions, this surely shows their lack of ability in making their decision.



Thread: Urgent advice needed please members

368.       Loveprague
627 posts
 17 May 2007 Thu 03:40 pm

Hi,
I had the bad news today to receive confirmation that my fiancee's holiday visa has been turned down, she was due to travel on the 26th May 2007, I am absolutely distraught and she is very upset, the reasons they gave were.
1. She did not have enough funds in her current bank account to suffice being able to support herself during her 10 day holiday in the U.K.
2. There was not enough contact between us to deem we have a serious relationship.

The first question was already answered when myself and my parents would fund and sponsor her holiday entirely for the ten day duration of her stay.

The second question on visa failure was there was not enough evidence of our serious relationship as she did not provide enough information about our relationship.

I am really distraught at this and have tried telephoning the British consulate for over four hours since the decision was made, I am not sure what we can do to on this now, it is going to be too late to change flights and I will not get a refund. I would dearly love some help on this or advice in answer to their second question I can provide rtelephone receipts, e-mails texts as I have kept every single call made and everything else, Nesrin did not phone me that often to show on her telephone bill as we used MSN alot. I am trying desperatly for some answers especially when they deemed we do not have a serious relationship, I live in England it is not a five minute journey away surely they can see this as why I am not with her as much as possible. My family are also upset they have never met Nesrin, please somebody offer advice my world has been torn by these consulate wreckers of lives



Thread: Meeting mum for the first time!!!

369.       Loveprague
627 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 09:05 pm

Azade,
When I first met my fiancee's mum I felt also that I had to take gifts to her immediate family I have taken gifts every time I have visited but the gifts have become smaller now I remember I took her sister some nice wedged shoes (I used to sell ladies shoes self-employed) I took her nephew a very nice gift which was an american basketball shirt I think that really was a hit with her nephew. I would say for the first time meeting family just take some presents for the immediate family, sister, brother, mum and father of your loved one



Thread: E-bay finally reaches Turkey

370.       Loveprague
627 posts
 15 May 2007 Tue 12:58 pm






Quoting Elisa:

Quoting gezbelle:

i have a paypal account and i am able to use it, but i don't have a u.s. bank account...



Me neither, and I use Paypal no problem.. You might want to check it again Loveprague, it probably used to be like that in the beginning, but it's not anymore. Don't know what is required for people living in Turkey though.

Btw, a friend of mine was using Gittigidiyor.com a year ago already..




Quoting Elisa:

I checked Paypal offerings Worldwide and you're right Loveprague, Turkish residents need a US bank account, whereas some other countries don't.
But this will change I think, I remember it being like that in Belgium too a while ago. Now I can use my local bank account as well.
Anyway, check the link above to see what's available for your country.



Elisa,
I know Gittigidiyor.com was a website away from e-bay and then e-bay either bought it or they used it for e-bay as it has only recently been added to the countries list on e-bay. Elisa I am so dissapointed I set her an account up and we did everything okay until it came to adding a U.S. bank account this is where we got stuck. What I cannot understand now and Nesrin told me also is that alot of Turkish people do not have U.S. bank accounts and yet why have e-bay in Turkey if they cannot use PAYPAL?



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